ruffdog64
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Music creator 5 problems
Hi everyone, my wife has music creator 5 and has a problem in that when she plays back the recording she did she has to have the volume on max to be able to hear anything and even then it`s difficult to hear , the set up is as follows acoustic guitar into her amp then onto the m-audio fastrack interface and then into pc can anyone help please? it you need and more info please ask
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57Gregy
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Re:Music creator 5 problems
January 05, 12 1:07 PM
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Welcome to the forum. What is she using to hear the playback? Are the recording levels at a good, high level? Are the track/bus volume sliders set too low? If playing back through the Fast Track (recommended), is the output volume of the FT up high enough?
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ruffdog64
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Re:Music creator 5 problems
January 05, 12 1:30 PM
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Hi Greg, thanks for taking time to reply, she is using the speakers on the pc, the levels are basically a flatline and when she had some they were very low , all level settings are set high, and yes it`s being played back through ft, hope this helps, Harvey
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Guitarhacker
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Re:Music creator 5 problems
January 05, 12 1:34 PM
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Welcome There are a number of things that can cause low volume. First off.... have a look at the tracks in the track view mode. How much space in the tracks are the waves occupying? Are they nice and fat or are they thin skinny lines? Do they look like this? This tells you the level that is going in to the DAW and gets captured to track. The waves in the picture above are nice well recorded wave levels. If the waves look like this and you have low output, something in the output chain is causing the low levels. If the levels are much thinner, you guys need to increase the input levels. Some interfaces have instrument and line level inputs..... if your's does too, try changing the input level type. Mine makes a huge difference between instrument and line.
post edited by Guitarhacker - January 05, 12 1:37 PM
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ruffdog64
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Re:Music creator 5 problems
January 05, 12 1:38 PM
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When she originally had some sound the levels were at the a similar level to the yellow ones in your example and very quiet ,is there some kind of reset for the buttons as she has been messing with everything in an attempt to correct it .
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Re:Music creator 5 problems
January 05, 12 2:30 PM
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I would suggest as a test, import a standard wav or mp3 into a track and compare or listen back. If this wave file is playing back very low then the input levels are probably not your problem. If this wave plays back fine, then you have a problem with your input levels. For either Input or Output issues, you must trace the signal chain. Work backwards from the output back to the input. If you are using your onboard sound card, then open the windows volume control. (typically) [Start]->[Programs]->[Accessories]->[Entertainment]->[Volume control] On the Master Volume make sure your Master volume and Wave volume are at healthy levels (for playback) and that the Recording Volume as well as the Mic and Line levels are at healthy levels as well. Otherwise if you are using external gear and using ASIO this is done on the ASIO panel. I believe if you are using WDK then you use the Windows volume control as well. If all is good here, then in Cakewalk, open the console view. Check the Final stage volume which is usually labeled with the sound card you are using. Adjust the Levels accordingly. Then work your way back to the Master Bus ( If you use one ) and proceed backwards through any other busses you may have in the signal chain. Once you have all the busses adjusted to good levels, then it's time to work on your sources. All Midi inputs will drive a softsynth or WaveTable this will be the source of your analog signals. The soft synths will have their own master volume which can be adjusted as well. Finally check the midi track levels driving the softsynth for adequate drive levels. All analog inputs (Non-midi) will have their own track levels. Adjust these to the proper drive levels. Tracing the signal chain for analog signals can also be performed from the source, through the busses to the output as well. The important thing is to trace the entire signal chain to find where the level is inadequate.
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57Gregy
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Re:Music creator 5 problems
January 05, 12 10:48 PM
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ruffdog64 Hi Greg, thanks for taking time to reply, she is using the speakers on the pc, the levels are basically a flatline and when she had some they were very low , all level settings are set high, and yes it`s being played back through ft, hope this helps, Harvey Are those speakers connected to the FT or the computer sound card? What kind of microphone is she using? Or is she going line out from the amp to line in on the Fast Track?
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Re:Music creator 5 problems
January 06, 12 8:32 AM
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You should have a respectable volume if the waves look like the yellow track. That is a stereo wave and the track is sized slightly smaller than the ones around it. The waves in it would easily compare to the one in red below it. Are you using the outputs on the M-Audio fastrack interface? If not, you should. You will need to connect amplified monitor speakers to those outputs since they are line level and not power outputs. In the audio setup for MC, you should see the M-Audio show up as both input and output choices. You want to select the M-Audio for both and then connect some amplified speakers to the interface. Deselect the computer's sound card and thus, it's speakers...only use the M-Audio. ( with ASIO drivers) In the second post reply from you, you mentioned she is monitoring through the PC speakers. That is the wrong way to monitor. To get the best performance with low latency and audio quality, you definitely want to use the M-audio for all input and output. If you do not currently have any powered studio monitors, you can "fake it" for test & setup purposes by connecting the M-audio to either a spare set of working computer speakers or using connections to send the M-audio into a stereo system with aux inputs. You will likely need some adapters from radio shack to get the M-audio R&L into the miniature plug on the computer speakers. Or some straight up cords with the proper connectors to get into the aux in on the stereo. I actually send my interface out to a stereo for headphone amplification. Most interfaces do not have robust headphone output levels. Run these tests and see if that works. It looks to me, like the input levels you are getting, are good.
post edited by Guitarhacker - January 06, 12 8:34 AM
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Re:Music creator 5 problems
January 06, 12 8:37 AM
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as greg and herb are pointing out, make sure that you're monitoring AND recording from the fast track, not from the computer soundcard. verify that you have your settings in OPTIONS>AUDIO for PLAYBACK and RECORDING DEVICES set to the fast track ONLY, not to the computer soundcard. or change to ASIO driver mode and that should solve it as well because the onboard soundcard doesn't have ASIO drivers so that mode will only use the fast track for input and output.
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Guitarhacker
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Re:Music creator 5 problems
January 06, 12 8:42 AM
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Run the wave profiler when you change drivers and you should be good to go. Run the tests and let us know how it goes.
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ruffdog64
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Re:Music creator 5 problems
January 06, 12 5:34 PM
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She was trying to record it through the wrong input, a friend came round and pointed her in the right direction, plus one of the guitar leads was faulty, so now she can hear what she`s recorded, many thanks for all the replies.
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Re:Music creator 5 problems
January 07, 12 8:39 AM
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My website & music: www.herbhartley.com MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface BMI/NSAI "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer "
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