I hate cables, any tricks to reduce them?

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2012/01/06 09:10:28 (permalink)

I hate cables, any tricks to reduce them?

...without the scissors?
I mean will there be times everything is wireless?
but then we all die from radiation....
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    jhughs
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    Re:I hate cables, any tricks to reduce them? 2012/01/06 19:24:49 (permalink)
    Well, it's not much help, but that is what Bluetooth was about.

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    Re:I hate cables, any tricks to reduce them? 2012/01/06 21:08:31 (permalink)
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    Well, it's not much help, but that is what Bluetooth was about.

    but somehow none of audio interfaces or instruments feature bluetooth right?
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    Re:I hate cables, any tricks to reduce them? 2012/01/07 00:14:04 (permalink)
    The only way I know of is to jump to higher technology. For example, light pipe or SPDIF for audio and bluetooth for mice and keyboards.

    Wireles units for instruments and HDMI for mutli channel audio and hi-def video.

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    Re:I hate cables, any tricks to reduce them? 2012/01/07 03:05:31 (permalink)
    Or perhaps cord connections to a near wall and inside the wall and out again with another cord connection to where it is suppose to go, I guess. Sounds too involved though for me.

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    Re:I hate cables, any tricks to reduce them? 2012/01/07 08:53:58 (permalink)
    All those connections.... I like wires. 

    Just get some of those velcro ty-wraps and bundle the cord neatly. 

    I drilled some 2" holes (with a hole saw) in the back of my cabinets and routed all the wires out of sight for the most part. What I can't see doesn't bother me too much. 

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    Re:I hate cables, any tricks to reduce them? 2012/01/07 09:31:13 (permalink)
    Buy more software.

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    Re:I hate cables, any tricks to reduce them? 2012/01/07 09:47:27 (permalink)
    1. Think through all of your gear, connections, and most logical and efficient placement for what you do and how you work. Then develop a plan with distances and connections needed.

    2. Get cords at the correct length so you don't have excess loops of cabling. Of course this limits movement of devices but for those things that are more permanent and arranged like you want, it makes a difference. 
     
    3. Get cord organizers and combine runs whenever possible, as needed for the back of your desk, along the walls, etc. e.g., my DAW is in a stereo cab flush with the wall adjacent to my desk underneath a stairwell. I have a cradenza I converted the middle set of drawers into a rack along the stairwell wall. I did as Herb and drilled a 2" hole thru that wall with a short piece of PVC to make pulls easier.

    I have cables into the stairwell and back out again to and from my desk and around to the opposite wall for keyboards drums and a 4 channel mic snake. I used 4' sections of cord organizers with adhesive backing that attached to my baseboard along the floor. I only see a few cables at the most standing in the room.


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    Re:I hate cables, any tricks to reduce them? 2012/01/07 22:57:08 (permalink)
    I hate cables too.  All my recording guitars in the house are wireless - mainly because I have kids and I can't afford to have a bunch of cables on the ground - but it makes things very conveinient.

    Bluetooth is a problem - I tried a bluetooth mouse and found that it glitched Sonar A LOT.  After researching I found that bluetooth interrupts the CPU.  Wireless USB on the other hand, does not interrupt the CPU.  So for now, wireless USB is much better for audio than bluetooth.

    Line6 makes a great wireless system with no loss of signal - you may want to try that.
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    Re:I hate cables, any tricks to reduce them? 2012/01/08 09:12:55 (permalink)
    Depending how open the wiring is..... a visit to your local electrical supply company store might be a sueful thing to do.

    In this business, (security and wiring for low voltage stuff like I do) the appearance of the head end gear is pretty important. So, where a need exists, people invent things to fill that need. 

    Have a look at all the cool cabling things available. From the velcro ty-wraps I mentioned to cable trays and troughs of all sizes.  The trays really look good and keep the cable in place.  They are more useful with open wiring such as on stand alone racks of gear in a room. 

    A few things in a home studio like I have... drill the holes if you are able or willing. 

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    Re:I hate cables, any tricks to reduce them? 2012/01/08 13:45:50 (permalink)
    I took my cue from my background in large computer systems, where you cannot even imagine the cable mess that's hidden under raised floors, above drop ceilings and inside equipment racks. The key is bundling like-signal cables, either with wire-ties or in flexible conduit.

    Go down to a well-stocked hardware store and you can find plastic cable conduits that are split down their length so you can have cables entering and exiting them at any point. The conduits can then be wire-tied to equipment racks or whatever, resulting in a tidy setup where cables don't get underfoot or look messy. 

    My two primary keyboards normally sit next to the equipment rack but sometimes get taken out for gigs. So all the cables (2 audio, 2 midi, 1 s/pdif, and foot pedal for one, 2 audio, 2 midi and footswitch for the other) are routed through two conduits; when it comes time to set up at home again, I don't have to find each cable and figure out which MIDI cable is for which instrument because they're all bundled together.

    While you're at the hardware store, if it has a garden-supply section look for a roll of the velcro-like tape that they sell for tying up tomato plants. It's cheap, you can cut it to length with scissors, and it's more convenient for tying cables together than nylon wire-ties. I use these a lot. Even for tomatoes.

    One caveat: don't put power and signal cables in the same conduit. Audio, MIDI and digital can all coexist in close proximity, but power cables should follow a separate route. There is no problem bundling multiple power cables together, though.



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    Re:I hate cables, any tricks to reduce them? 2012/01/09 04:07:09 (permalink)
    Spot on Bit.

    And if audio & power cables do have to cross somewhere, make sure they cross at 90 degrees with respect to each other.

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    Re:I hate cables, any tricks to reduce them? 2012/01/09 11:03:19 (permalink)
    Regarding power and audio cables... Back in my live sound days we were setting up various concert stages for the state fair. We got there nice and early and ran all our lines to/from the stages to the various mixers. We kept them out of the way of everything and made sure it was all nice and tidy. Next day we came in and found out on one of the stages that the lighting guys had come in after us and run all their power cables right along side our audio lines. Fired up the system and BUZZZZZZZ! I don't miss those days.

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