Another new DAW ..... and the competition just got hotter ......

http://bitwig.com/bitwig_studio.php
 
It's still in BETA ...... but damn ........ very impressive for a  v1.0 ........ anybody know who these guy's are ?
 
tim

Well it may be very nice but all you can see are screen shots so really how can you tell if this is really good or not? I did try to sign up for the beta though ;-)

Ken

Another DAW. I suppose there are others such as Acid and Audition and Tracktion that are falling by the wayside the same time all this is happening. Red Sea market- lots of competitors in the same ocean. Who will be the next to fall? Who will rise to the surface and claim the title "The One True DAW to Rule all Others" ?

I suppose prices will drop and DAW makers will make less money and hire fewer and lower quality programmers. Having heaps of cheap DAWs- is it really good for music makers?


Old Skool: Pro Tools, Cubase, Samplitude, Logic, Sonar
Nu-School: Studio One, Reaper, Reason/Record, Bitwig, Ableton

I don't think anything will ever knock Pro Tools from their perch in the bigger pro studios (I'm not saying that some small studios are not professional.. I think some are probably more professional than quite a few of the big ones, I have seen what a small business can offer but in a big world it does not seem to matter... can you say McDonalds? (I like McD )) PT seem's to be an institution.
Sometimes a business or product gets such a good reputation, deserved or not, that people make huge assumptions and they just wont change.
 
I've spent my life in and out of the Pest Control business. My dad owned a Pest Control business when I was growing up, I did all sorts of work when I was young but in my 30s, in 1989, I started a Pest business in the north Atlanta area. I have seen all kinds of different business practices and it always amazes me how much crummy service a customer will take before they change... it is HARD to get most people to change from anything that they, for whatever reason, perceive to be the best... or for that matter from anything at all. The big companies, in the pest business, pressure their technicians for volume, they are in and out in a few minutes and they charge a premium. We (my Pest business) on the other hand use only the best products, we generally spend 3 to 4 x more time at a customers home or business, we don't have a turnover in technicians.. it has been me and one other person (not counting my ex- son-in-law who I fired) for the whle time. We do a GOOD job, still people pay the big "O" and other big companies more money to come spend 10 minutes at their house because... well, I don't know why. Marketing and perception I guess... it is a steep hill to climb. PT is always going to to be the big pro studio standard.
I hope Sonar will take the small studio and hobbiest market and strike a good balance between "in the box" and live recording... that is the market that is being decided right now.
IMO, Sonar has an incredible opportunity right now to offer the right product... CW has the name recognition and everything going for them but it looks like some others smell blood in the water. That should not be.

I truly hope CW makes all the right decisions. I hope that they take the time to either read these forums and the forums for all their competition... or hire a small firm to do it for them and digest it so that they will know for certain where the market is going and what people really want, so they can give it to us. CW can go up or they can go down but in this economic environment and considering the competition, they cannot remain static. They will lose some if they don't pay close attention in this environment. I think CW has been around too long to completely fail but they can really lose the opportunity of a lifetime.

This is my opinion and I reserve the right to be wrong.
Julien

backwoods


Another DAW. I suppose there are others such as Acid and Audition and Tracktion that are falling by the wayside the same time all this is happening. Red Sea market- lots of competitors in the same ocean. Who will be the next to fall? Who will rise to the surface and claim the title "The One True DAW to Rule all Others" ?

I suppose prices will drop and DAW makers will make less money and hire fewer and lower quality programmers. Having heaps of cheap DAWs- is it really good for music makers?


Old Skool: Pro Tools, Cubase, Samplitude, Logic, Sonar
Nu-School: Studio One, Reaper, Reason/Record, Bitwig, Ableton

No it's not good. Great software mostly takes large teams because you need a wide area of expertise and one man can't be a master of it all no matter how good. Large teams need money.

not to shabby 

With submission (LOL), disagree with you bamidi. Studio one and Cubase are no more similiar than most DAW couplings. 

Don't see how Ableton looks "Cartoonish". What cartoon looks like that? What are you talking about LOL!?

You should say X1 stole from P5 if anything bamidi. I thought Studio One stole from cubase? WTF!

Yes, I know you will be buying it bamidi becuase you are a jack of all trades and master of none.

CMon bamidi, what cartoon: the smurfs? samurai jack? gummi bears? samurai pizza cats?

Ok. That didn't even look remotely inviting.

Older thread - Here

I love this take on it.

Hi all,"Another new DAW ..... and the competition just got hotter ......??? NO,we have another opportunity to learn more about our software (X1) and understand all the potentials... All my best.Roby

ba_midi


There's a lot of similarities between Cubase and Studio One as well ...  seems not to be an issue so far.

I would even add that X1 seemed to have "borrowed" alot of its GUI approach from Studio One 

Studio One may have been put together by former Steinberg employees, but its design - which Sonar adopted/adapted too - essentially comes from Logic.

It's a fact that market is getting tougher. In a few short years, Logic's price went from almost $1000 to a mere $200. Since Apple also sell the hardware to run it on, they can afford to sell the software for much less. 


Though not a direct competitor for Cakewalk, I guess there could be something like a chain-reaction price drop for others as well, particularly w/ all the cheaper new alternatives. Others like Avid, Steinberg and Presonus are all cross-platform, and I can't imagine them cutting the prices only for the Mac version.

It'll be interesting to see this evolve. 

LANEY


I am not a DJ'er so it doesn't really appeal to me.

If you think Ableton Live is only for DJ-ing or electronic music you are mistaken. Ableton has the most flexible routing scheme in the business. 
Bitwig might beat out Ableton by including some sorely needed features like 64 bit support. 

"Who will rise to the surface and claim the title "The One True DAW to Rule all Others" ?"

Really, I think Sonar could be pretty close with a couple of changes (and a revamped gapless audio engine).   Of course I'm sure part of that is familiarty on my part, but then again, Sonar for the most part has just made sense to me (although a bit less so with X1).

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!! Glyn, thanks for sharing!

Man, that was a very funny video. I like that take, too! :)