patmc007
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MC6 vs. Sonar
I'm sure this can be a long list, but can somebody who is familar with both software products give me an understanding of the major differences between Music Creator 6 and Sonic? And let me know if system stability is one of those differences.....thanks very much!
Patrick Via www.soundcloud.com/patmc007 Sonar X3 Producer Lexicon Lambda Pro Audio Interface M-Audio Keystation Mini 32 Midi Controller Korg nanoPAD 2 MXL 990 Microphone Roland D-50 Linear Synth A Wing A Prayer "The music I conjure up in my head and the music I generate on my computer are seldom the same. But it is my goal for them to be so."
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Re:MC6 vs. Sonar
2012/01/21 23:48:17
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patmc007
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Re:MC6 vs. Sonar
2012/01/22 08:43:18
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It looks like Sonar Essentials is basically MC6. And as you say, more of everything is included in Sonar Production for a pricetag of about $400. Do you know anything about V-Vocal (since singing is one of my biggest weaknesses) and how stable the software is with Windows 7 32 bit?
Patrick Via www.soundcloud.com/patmc007 Sonar X3 Producer Lexicon Lambda Pro Audio Interface M-Audio Keystation Mini 32 Midi Controller Korg nanoPAD 2 MXL 990 Microphone Roland D-50 Linear Synth A Wing A Prayer "The music I conjure up in my head and the music I generate on my computer are seldom the same. But it is my goal for them to be so."
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Beagle
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Re:MC6 vs. Sonar
2012/01/22 08:54:44
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Essentials lets you record more than 2 simultaneious tracks, depending on your hardware, but it also comes with a lot more softsynths and plugins than MC does. v-vocal is only in studio or producer versions, not essentials. I use v-vocal for cleaning up minor pitch correction. it's kind of clunky compared to melodyne (3rd party plugin) but it does the job once you learn it. for really off pitch, it's best to resing it tho. all of them are very stable on win7 32bit as long as your soundcard drivers are stable and well written.
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Re:MC6 vs. Sonar
2012/01/22 08:56:48
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MC6 & X1 essentials are very similar. The biggest difference is that X1e has a few plugs that MC6 doesn't and X1e has the ability to handle more then 2 audio inputs at a time. I crossgraded to X1e simply because they offered it to MC users at a greatly discounted rate. I really see no performance improvements by using it over MC. MC6 has some really nice synths and loops library with it that makes it a super value for the cost.
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Re:MC6 vs. Sonar
2012/01/22 09:56:59
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Thank you all for the input and comments!
Patrick Via www.soundcloud.com/patmc007 Sonar X3 Producer Lexicon Lambda Pro Audio Interface M-Audio Keystation Mini 32 Midi Controller Korg nanoPAD 2 MXL 990 Microphone Roland D-50 Linear Synth A Wing A Prayer "The music I conjure up in my head and the music I generate on my computer are seldom the same. But it is my goal for them to be so."
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Re:MC6 vs. Sonar
2012/01/29 17:07:17
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Wow Beag 38,000 post Really? You should get a prize of sumpin'!
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Re:MC6 vs. Sonar
2012/01/29 19:25:58
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My website & music: www.herbhartley.com MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface BMI/NSAI "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer "
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Re:MC6 vs. Sonar
2012/01/30 22:14:58
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He is began for that i am sure!
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Beagle
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Re:MC6 vs. Sonar
2012/01/31 06:23:50
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Re:MC6 vs. Sonar
2012/02/18 06:49:45
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I'm currently making a very similar evaluation to that of PatMC and I'm glad to have found this thread. There is what seems like a really great bundle available with purchase of Sonor X1 for a very reasonable price. Price wise, I can do Sonor X1 Studio at this time and I'm VERY close to taking the plunge. But I'd like to elicit opinions about whether or not I may be taking on too much bang for the buck. While I'm not new to recording having a Roland digital multi-track, I am a little worried about getting in over my head by selecting a DAW that is too complex for my level of comprehension and computer savvy. I previously let a sales person talk me into Guitar Rig 3 and it came with Cubase LE 4. While Cubase seems like a powerful program, I struggled with it and quickly lost patience and enthusiasm, as it didn't come off as very user-friendly. Conversely, in about 2001 I'd purchased a Cakewalk Music Midi Pack and that came very naturally to me and I've since hoped to buy a Cakewalk DAW. Because I make purchases towards this hobby once in a blue moon (i.e. I'm not the type to routinely upgrade), I'm inclined to make a purchase that I may not outgrow within the price point and that won't have limitations that may pose a problem, like Music Creator's limit of 2 audio inputs for example. However, if the program is too complex for my Beginner status, the lack of limitations becomes a moot point. That being said, two capabilities I really need in a DAW are 1) the ability to make edits/corrections (agree with Pat RE: V-Vocal!); and 2) the ability to print the music or score. Any thoughts or advice as to the more appropriate choice for me between Music Creator 6 and Sonor X1 Essential or Studio would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance? P.S. Beagle - In the past 2 hours I've garnered some really helpful information from your routine participation in this forum, this thread included. Thanks!
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Beagle
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Re:MC6 vs. Sonar
2012/02/18 07:18:49
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first, there's no way for us to really tell if you will be able to intuitively pick up sonar or not. The best way to find out is to try it. and there is a downloadable trial version of X1 available. I would suggest that you download it and play with it for a while (you have 30 I think for it to work). also, the differences between X1 and MC6 are only in the features. they work exactly the same - they look the same (with small differences where they "crippled" some features for the lower price of MC6) so workflow will be exactly the same between the two. the biggest differences between MC6 and X1 Studio are: more simultaneous inputs in X1S more total tracks, buses, FX and synths allowed in X1S Audio Snap in X1S (quantization for audio) publishing songs to the web in the program in X1S (I don't really use that feature myself, tho) a LOT more softsynths and FX in X1S (IMO, the Sonitus Suite of FX plugins are worth the price of admission for X1S!) Several other things available in X1 here's a comparison chart for X1 products. MC is not listed, but it's very close to the same as Essentials except it has limitations on track count, bus count, number of softsynths and number of FX allowed in one project. there are a few other limitations, too, but I don't have an exhaustive list. http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/X1-Studio/feature.aspx/SONAR-X1-Comparison-Chart however, don't get me wrong! MC6 is an extremely powerful and versatile program and is so similar to X1 it's funny how little you pay for it! A lot of folks start out with MC and then upgrade to X1 - that's what most of the veterans on this forum have done. here's the link for the X1 trial download http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/X1-Studio/updates.aspx/20081217 glad you find my posts useful! that's why I post!
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Re:MC6 vs. Sonar
2012/02/18 11:05:56
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Good questions MDdrum.... I used the $40 MC4 as my only DAW for 3+ years and with it was able to produce some pretty decent music. It is classified by Cake as "beginner's " recording software. I believe that is not quite accurate. While it is simple and doesn't have the bells and whistles of the Sonar line..... it is a very usable and capable DAW. As Beagle said... download the demo and try it. Come here and ask questions. Understand that every DAW, whether it's Cubase, Sonar or some other one, they will all have slightly different work flows and they all have a learning curve. We can assist with some of this issues you may encounter. With MC and Sonar... I mix "totally inside the box"...... I find it works well for me that way as do many others. Have fun.
My website & music: www.herbhartley.com MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface BMI/NSAI "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer "
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Re:MC6 vs. Sonar
2012/02/22 22:19:04
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Beagle and Guitarhacker, Thank you both so much for your insights! I must say that MC6 seems pretty amazing for "beginners" software. I'd seen the X1 comparison chart and realized very quickly that I'd probably never grow beyond Studio. I am definitely lured in by some of Studio's "bells and whistles", especially the much-needed V-Vocal feature. I am also relieved/encouraged to hear that these features are the main difference and that the two operate similarly. My previous, albeit limited, experience with Cakewalk went quite well and I still use that program occasionally. I wondered about a free demo for X1, but didn't see the page, Beagle. So thanks a bunch and I will absolutely try it out. I'll try not to bug you guys to much, but thanks for the support! Mark
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Re:MC6 vs. Sonar
2012/02/23 08:09:37
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MDdrumz.... while studio has Vvocal, many people who have it don't really like it. I do not have it so all I can do is go on what people say about it. When I was looking for vocal correction software, I compared the big ones..... VVocal, Autotune, and Melodyne. Melodyne was the one that for me, in a side by side comparison did the best job and got the best reviews from users, many of whom had several of the packages. If you can't swing the admission cost to melodyne, there is the Melodyne Essential version whaich has the "essentials" needed to do the job. I happen to have Editor, BUT..... I probably only use the essentials in it to do what I do which is fix wayward notes. Just my 2 cents
My website & music: www.herbhartley.com MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface BMI/NSAI "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer "
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