Need help recording drum kit in MC6

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2012/01/29 12:27:08 (permalink)

Need help recording drum kit in MC6

Hi, I'm using Cakewalk SI-Drum Kit with Music Creator 6. I'm able to bring up the drum kit and play the instrument just fine through the window that pops up (I do not have a keyboard attached to the machine). However I don't seem to be able to record what I play. When I tell music creator to record the drum kit I can see the equalizer on the track moving up and down so I'm assuming that means the MC is detecting the music. But it never seems to actually record it. I've gone through the help/video on how to do this and followed them step-by-step (seems very straight-forward) but it just doesn't work. The only difference is they have a keyboard hooked up - I'm hoping to avoid that. I feel like I must be missing some switch someplace. Does anyone have any suggestions on what to search for or try? I'm fairly new to all of this stuff so any suggestion (no matter how obvious) would be appreciated. :-)
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    Re:Need help recording drum kit in MC6 2012/01/31 07:58:02 (permalink)
    I don't have SI-Drum kit, but I'm guessing that  taping the kit is only good for sampling the instruments. You'll need a midi controller to play and record the notes for you or enter them in the Piano Roll.

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    Re:Need help recording drum kit in MC6 2012/02/05 15:36:22 (permalink)
    You should either have a midi controller to input the notes OR.... you can draw them in with the mouse using Piano Roll View (PRV) or in Staff view. 

    You should also be able to drag clips in from the library.

    Watch the videos here>>> http://www.cakewalk.com/CakeTV/Music-Creator.aspx

    they should help you to understand this process better.



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    Re:Need help recording drum kit in MC6 2012/02/11 15:43:04 (permalink)
    I was trying to do the same thing and couldn't figure out how to do it either. Turns out it doesn't work that way. Cannot record the activity in SI to a midi track. Seems to me it should do that, I thought that's what it was for! Apparently not.

    However, I set my recording device to "stereo mix" and armed an audio track and recorded my SI Drum playing as an audio track. Still sounds like drums!

    "Stereo Mix" did not appear on my list of input devices initially .. I had to right click in the windows "Sounds" window and click "show all disabled devices" then right clicked on "Stereo Mix" and clicked "enable" .. works like a charm now.
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    Re:Need help recording drum kit in MC6 2013/01/28 19:48:43 (permalink)
    Hello there. 
    I think I have the answer to your question.

    It is quite simple!

    Just drag & drop.

    First, choose a rhythm pattern you like.
    Then drag the name of the pattern down to any tracks you like.
    Try and see. Now you have a nice drum play as a form of MIDI date, which is quite handy to arrange.


    I hope this works.
    And please allow me if my English is a bit funny, I am not an English native, you know.


    Video tutorial: this may also help you (watch till the end!)
     http://www.youtube.com/wa...v=UquKaN5Ruio&NR=1

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    Re:Need help recording drum kit in MC6 2013/01/29 00:19:20 (permalink)
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    I was trying to do the same thing and couldn't figure out how to do it either. Turns out it doesn't work that way. Cannot record the activity in SI to a midi track. Seems to me it should do that, I thought that's what it was for! Apparently not.

    However, I set my recording device to "stereo mix" and armed an audio track and recorded my SI Drum playing as an audio track. Still sounds like drums!

    "Stereo Mix" did not appear on my list of input devices initially .. I had to right click in the windows "Sounds" window and click "show all disabled devices" then right clicked on "Stereo Mix" and clicked "enable" .. works like a charm now.

    You are correct in that it doesn't work that way. Many synths provide some way to trigger them in the synth GUI. This triggers the sound directly, and bypasses the MIDI track. It is for auditioning your sound. You cannot record MIDI from the GUI of any synth.


    As you have discovered, Stereo Mix will record the audio output of your synth as you play from the GUI control.
    Here's the drawbacks:
    You lose all benefits of recording MIDI.
    If you have other tracks playing, they will also be recorded to your audio track.
    If you are using the metronome, it will be recorded to your audio track.
    Stereo Mix, aka What You Hear,  should really be avoided.
    Your best bet is to learn how to drag and drop patterns and work with the PRV.
    If you want to do real time recording with soft synths, a controller of some kind is a must.



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