Mint Julep

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2012/01/30 16:41:27 (permalink)

Mint Julep

Hi,
 
I've got a new song out - made with SONAR X1. 
 
It's called "Mint Julep" - you can check it out here:
http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11403977
 
It features the usual suspects:
Superior Drums
Trilian Bass
Real guitar with a POD XT
Omnisphere
new Kontakt Retro Machines Mk2 Library
and a guest appearance by the "Salvation Army Band"
(Kirk Hunter Concert Brass 2)
any comments graciously accepted ;-)

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    LanceJ
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    Re:Mint Julep 2012/01/30 16:45:52 (permalink)
    I am always a sucker for band instruments done electronically.  It is very difficult to get the breath, attacks and durations correct.  Takes a lot of time.

    Nice feel.

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    Re:Mint Julep 2012/01/30 16:48:29 (permalink)
    Thanks for listening Lance. Do you think it's (the brass) credible at all?

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    Re:Mint Julep 2012/01/30 16:48:32 (permalink)
    The brass intro is nice. Maybe it's me but the pan perspective seems backwards.

    The mix is clean and crisp. I think the main instrument melody line could come up by about a db (or even two).

    I love the feel of the song. Great job.
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    Re:Mint Julep 2012/01/30 16:52:13 (permalink)
    Hi bapu,
     
    Thanks a lot for listening. I had no idea how to pan the brass. I didn't want the tuba too far off to one side - so I kept him a little left of centre. I didn't think there was an "official" panning structure so I just did:
     
    French Horn - Tuba - Trombone - Trumpet
     
    and tried to pan them like there were 4 players lined up in a room.
     
    Thanks for your mixing comments.

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    Re:Mint Julep 2012/01/30 17:00:24 (permalink)
    Yes, I do think you have done the brass well.

    L.

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    Re:Mint Julep 2012/01/30 17:18:47 (permalink)
    This was a fun listen.  I like your instrumentation and the sense of space in the mix.  Maybe the guitar could come up a notch, but other than that, it sounds very professional.

    All the best,
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    Re:Mint Julep 2012/01/31 10:35:27 (permalink)
    Hi John,

    I think the Salvation Army Band intro is great! I like the overall tune/vibe and mix.

    Very nice!

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    Re:Mint Julep 2012/01/31 14:18:27 (permalink)
    LanceJ


    Yes, I do think you have done the brass well.

    L.

    Thanks for that Lance. I've never played a brass instrument and do this strictly by instinct and ear ;-)
    Any brass player could have the right to say these parts and the arrangement are crap ;-)

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    Re:Mint Julep 2012/02/01 16:43:31 (permalink)
    I think you did the brass well, I think you did the rest well,  but I don't think the two things combine well. The switch between intro and the main body of the tune sounds kinda like someone switched the tv channels to me.  I've listened several times to see if it will grow on me, but it hasn't yet.
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    Re:Mint Julep 2012/02/01 17:04:36 (permalink)
    I agree with Paulo on this - brass was done well (I might suggest the same thing about panning that bapu mentioned, tho), the rest of the song sounds like a completely different song.  they don't seem to mix any better than oil and water.


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    Re:Mint Julep 2012/02/01 21:57:46 (permalink)
    Very well written and I liked the concept but I could never get a picture of the concept between the intro and main song.  Both were cool, the goove is very nice.  Smokin bass line!

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    Re:Mint Julep 2012/02/03 15:43:28 (permalink)
    Well - thanks for listening paulo, Beagle and Daryl.
     
    I'm glad you think the brass came out well - and that was the reason for the "exercise". It was always meant to be just an intro section - and then I did just tack the next part on to it. I tried to tie it together a little with the brass line in the end.
     
    I'm sorry nobody (here) seems to like it - they were meant to be different from each other.  :-\
     
    Let's face it - the brass part couldn't just continue like that or it would just be a dirge ;-)
     
    I really appreciate the comments - I'll just have to try better next time ;-)
     
    PS
    (I might suggest the same thing about panning that bapu mentioned, tho),

    Do you mean trumpet really belongs on the left? Then trombone then tuba and French horn on the right? I was just trying to picture the way I see guys playing on the street. I'll have to pay more attention the next time I see a brass band.
     
    post edited by jbraner - 2012/02/03 15:47:48

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    Re:Mint Julep 2012/02/03 16:07:41 (permalink)
    Felt very good to me jbraner! I recognized some of the sounds from my experimenting. Love the wah! Good job!

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    Re:Mint Julep 2012/02/03 16:16:46 (permalink)
    bayoubill


    Felt very good to me jbraner! I recognized some of the sounds from my experimenting. Love the wah! Good job!


    Thanks for listening Bill! Which sounds do you recognise?

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    Re:Mint Julep 2012/02/03 16:21:08 (permalink)
    This was a fun listen. I like your instrumentation and the sense of space in the mix. Maybe the guitar could come up a notch, but other than that, it sounds very professional

     
    I think the Salvation Army Band intro is great! I like the overall tune/vibe and mix. 

     
    Hey - Thanks for listening Lynn and geeare1! I missed your comments somehow! (too busy doing my day job and trying to stay awake). Well at least *somebody* liked it


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    Re:Mint Julep 2012/02/03 17:09:18 (permalink)
    this might help, John

    http://www.conradaskland.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/standard-orchestra-seating.gif

    for ensembles, maybe this would be better:
    http://www.rockfordsymphony.com/rsyo/ensembles.asp

    I didn't say I didn't like it John, I just didn't think the intro and the song "fit" - and it's JMO anyway.

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    Re:Mint Julep 2012/02/04 05:39:02 (permalink)
    Thanks for that Beagle ;-)
     
    See, I wasn't going for a classical approach, more like 4 people lined up in front of a mic - and that "brass choir" isn't far from what I did - although that would be completely by luck, rather than any thought out planning ;-)
     
    Sorry - I wasn't meaning to sound "sensitive" - I *want* to hear peoples opinions #
     

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    Re:Mint Julep 2012/02/04 09:44:53 (permalink)
    Great arrangement and sound.  Excellent.  Panning, EQ, mix is perfect in the intro.
    The main song has good parts but the sounds don't draw me in.  Needs more depth, separation, ambiance?  

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    Re:Mint Julep 2012/02/05 06:07:12 (permalink)
    Thanks for listening Rimshot - and for the comments.
     

    Needs more depth, separation, ambiance
    These are very subjective terms - somebody else suggested some kind of room ambience on the master buss to tie everything together, and I'm wondering if that's something I should be looking into...

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    Re:Mint Julep 2012/02/05 06:59:29 (permalink)
    jbraner

     I tried to tie it together a little with the brass line in the end.
     
    I'm sorry nobody (here) seems to like it - they were meant to be different from each other.  :-\
     

     

     


    I could nail a rasher of bacon to each end of a plank of wood, but it'd still just be a plank of wood with bacon nailed to each end ;)

    Sorry, didn't mean to cause any offence, but you did ask.
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    Re:Mint Julep 2012/02/06 05:49:42 (permalink)
    Hi Paulo,
     
    Sorry, didn't mean to cause any offence, but you did ask.

    I'm not offended -  I *do* want to know what other people think ;-) I was just saying that for effect - not being serious ;-)
     
    Thanks again for listening and for posting your opinion/idea - that's what this forum is all about. It's no good if everybody just says "oh yeah, it's great" to everything ;-)

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