Audio recording problems with Music Creator 5

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2012/02/06 17:20:56 (permalink)

Audio recording problems with Music Creator 5

Hello:  I have system 7 and use Music Creator 5.  I have problems recording audio.  I want to record audio from the internet.  I go to my control panel to set up the volume for my input.  If it is set too low, I get no recording.  If it is set too high, I get too much recording.  There is no middle ground.  My recordings are either a straight line or all red!  I don't see where else I can adjust my input volume besides the control panel.  Please help
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    Guitarhacker
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    Re:Audio recording problems with Music Creator 5 2012/02/06 20:23:03 (permalink)
    Recording music from the Internet is a violation of copyright. 

    If you insist on ripping music from websites, there are specific programs designed to do that much easier then MC5. 

    Audacity is one such free program that does this:  http://audacity.sourcefor...ording&i=streaming

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    Re:Audio recording problems with Music Creator 5 2012/02/07 16:50:29 (permalink)
    I am not interested in stealing copywrited material.  There are some live performances of music on the internet and some music that is only available on lps . . . and I can't find the lps anywhere!  This is the type of music I want to record.
     
    On a similar note, my software contains a sound module within itself.  When I assign an instrument from the sound module to a track, the sound comes out crackly.  What is going on with that?
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    Re:Audio recording problems with Music Creator 5 2012/02/07 17:02:24 (permalink)
    If your soundcard  has a setting for "What U hear" (or maybe "Stereo Mix") that should do it - record everything that is playing.

    You've been on the forum for six years. You do know we can't answer properly without knowing your system specs or any details about anything. Does "System 7" mean Windows 7? What software do you have that contains a sound module and how are you assigning it to a track (if it's MC...you don't mean soft synths, do you?)? Why not tell the names right away? Someone maybe using the same and know the answer right away!!!

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    Re:Audio recording problems with Music Creator 5 2012/02/07 17:26:15 (permalink)
    I am using Windows 7 and Music Creator 5, which contains the sound module.  Yes, it is soft synths that is coming in cracklely.  I am using the "stereo mix" and I am still having the input problems.  Yes, I have been a member of this forum for years, but I have only used it a few times.  You sound like a jerk.  So far, on this forum, I have been accused of stealing copywrited music and stupidity.  I don't appreciate that!
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    Re:Audio recording problems with Music Creator 5 2012/02/08 02:39:25 (permalink)
    Sorry if we got you irritated, but if nobody has the guts to tell you how to make your message heard and understood, you/we will never get anywhere. No-one's saying you're stupid.

    You, see...we still don't know your soundcard, what driver mode you're using, what are your computer specs etc. We need to know those things in order to be able to give advice. That's the essential info when dealing with crackles and pops, particularily.

    We're not mind readers! We can only answer based on what you tell us. "My software has a sound module!" That quite simply leaves a lot of room for interpretation, and includes no hints towards MC5 or softsynths.  I won't say I know what you mean when I don't. Such are the seas of communication, and we all become better sailors every day.

    If you are using the integrated soundchip, you must use MME drivers. They are the worst, and one shouldn't expect fluent workflow and good results with the integrated chips. ASIO4ALL drivers might work, too, it's a free download. Are you familiar with using soft synths in general?

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    Re:Audio recording problems with Music Creator 5 2012/02/08 08:03:49 (permalink)
    Maybe that's why he hasn't been around in 6 years....

    Hey I was simply stating a fact. If it's on the internet..... it's copyrighted.... and ripping a copy is illegal. Just a statement of fact. If you insist on breaking the laws... that's up to you. 

    I answered your question and told you which program to get to use to capture streaming audio. Audacity is able to capture streaming audio that is playing on your computer from any source and that includes CDs in the computer as well. How you use Audacity is up to you.


    As far as the crackling and popping noises..... very likely that is from attempting to use the computer's built in (factory el-cheapo) sound card with MC. Factory cards are notoriously bad choices for attempting to record with any good DAW such as the Cakewalk product line. we always recommend getting a dedicated music specific USB external interface to record properly with Cake.

    With MC5, and trying to play back and record synths, the factory card is not able to handle all the data and computing needed to convert the midi data into sound and get it to the speakers in what seems like real time. So what the computer does is drop sections of the music in it's attempt to keep up. You hear that as crackle and pop..... in severe cases the audio engine will drop out totally. 

    You can try to adjust the latency slider to give it more time to calculate but that also increases the audio delay you will hear... creating a new problem. 

    You should probably be using the MME drivers with a factory card...check that first. Feel free to try the other driver options.... they might work better.... if not just reset it too MME

    If MME is the best option...... you have 2 possible solutions.

    1. upgrade to an ASIO based external USB music interface as I mentioned above

    2. download a program called ASIO4ALL and load it. It fools the MME driver into thinking it's an ASIO driver and perhaps it will give you an acceptable playback/recording experience.  If that doesn't work...and sometimes it doesn't.... see  #1. 

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