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Re:How's SONAR's outboard delay compensation working these days?
2012/03/07 09:44:49
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From the Cakewalk Store:
External Hardware Support Easily incorporate your favorite outboard gear—compressors, EQs, stomp-boxes, and other processors right inside SONAR—just like a plug-in. Plus Automatic Delay Compensation will keep everything in sync and tight.
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Re:How's SONAR's outboard delay compensation working these days?
2012/03/07 09:54:16
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I haven't checked X1d yet but X1c was sample accurate after automatic delay compensation. A pleasure to use. Just make sure to put the external device in bypass for the delay calculation.
Don
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Re:How's SONAR's outboard delay compensation working these days?
2012/03/07 10:12:12
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Hi Mike, I can't really tell if you're serious, so: It will cause big problems with the Sonar! It all crash in the loudspeaker! All crash! Good boy. :) OK, seriously, it's a bit hit and miss. If you loop with an EI it sometimes gets out of sync and EI on buses can be an adventure...the latency calculation fails unless something is routed to the bus and IIRC soloing a bus with EI is odd. Oh, and last I checked EI wouldn't work inside an fx chain, but I haven't tried recently. II guess I'd say it's mostly OK but it can be a bit of a headache. I happened to re-read phuket ling ling this morning. I try pretty hard to not be a jerk but it's just so so funny. http://forum.cakewalk.com...;m=1123754&mpage=1 Dean
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Re:How's SONAR's outboard delay compensation working these days?
2012/03/08 05:35:31
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I successfully use an externally patched Roland/Boss Dimension effect. The only issue I had was level matching to the interface. Edit: If you are using a digital effect, the delay it introduces will be the same as the delay you experience when you are using it live. Are you trying to compensate that out? If I might suggest a workaround: Once you have the sound you want, record the wet sound only on one track, then shift the track on playback.
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Re:How's SONAR's outboard delay compensation working these days?
2012/03/08 08:04:44
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Why not just try it and see then let us know what you find?
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Re:How's SONAR's outboard delay compensation working these days?
2012/03/08 08:17:00
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Seems reasonable, carry on then soldier ;-)
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Re:How's SONAR's outboard delay compensation working these days?
2012/03/08 10:22:42
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mike_mccue
don4777
I haven't checked X1d yet but X1c was sample accurate after automatic delay compensation. A pleasure to use. Just make sure to put the external device in bypass for the delay calculation.
Don
Doesn't putting the effect in bypass defeat the purpose? What if the digital reverb patch I have plugged into the effects loop has a 2.4ms round trip? That needs to be compensated for too.
best regards,
mike
Hi Mike, I prefer to have the delay calculation be sample accurate taking the roundtrip latency into account with the device in bypass. And then after the calculation, take the device out of bypass and intentionally add predelay if desired. Trying to get an accurate measurement (with an external reverb or compression) is very difficult. I have never had consistent results. The waveform is distorted by the device and the edge of the pulse sent during the delay calculation is not recognized correctly. Others may prefer a different approach. Whatever works for your equipment and desired outcome is what you should use. Don
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Re:How's SONAR's outboard delay compensation working these days?
2012/03/08 11:15:51
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Print your FXs, time adjust if you are having latency issues.
The OB delay compensation works fine here. I use it all the time for reverbs, delays and compression. But, like I said, I print most everything that makes that round trip except during mix downs.
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Re:How's SONAR's outboard delay compensation working these days?
2012/03/08 12:24:43
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I mostly use the external loop for a PCM-90, which is already playing havoc with time relationships... but it's a reverb, that's what it is supposed to do! I have had zero problems! I use the digital I/O, not even sure why anymore, maybe it was easier at the time? I've used the external loop for other devices, all via analog I/O, in the past, but haven't had the need in X1d yet. I'll have to check it out!!!
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