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Can Someone explain the Sidechain feature in the Pro Channel Channel Compressor?
The subject line says it all - when you hit this switch - what is happening with the plug-in and the routing of the signal? Thanks in advance!
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Re:Can Someone explain the Sidechain feature in the Pro Channel Channel Compressor?
2012/03/08 11:19:32
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It makes the key input to the compressor available to other sources rather than the incoming signal on the current track. So you can use say the kick drum output to key the compressor on the bass track this effectively can compress the bass in time with the kick drum. Can be used for ducking, or just building a sympathetic response to another rhythm source in your track.
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Re:Can Someone explain the Sidechain feature in the Pro Channel Channel Compressor?
2012/03/08 11:29:55
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I think I understand the side chaining concept but am missing one point. Which track controls which? IOW if you want the Kick's compressor to be the "master" and have it control the bass line, do you have the compressor on the Kick track?
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Re:Can Someone explain the Sidechain feature in the Pro Channel Channel Compressor?
2012/03/08 11:36:49
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No, the kicks compressor doesn't control the bass. The bass compressor has the side chain turned on which makes it accessible to other inputs which can control it. You have to start your process with the question, "What needs to be controlled?". Then turn on the compressor sidechain for that target. It now exposes the compressor input to other tracks for input.
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Re:Can Someone explain the Sidechain feature in the Pro Channel Channel Compressor?
2012/03/08 12:44:27
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Great bread & butter Q&A. 8-)
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Re:Can Someone explain the Sidechain feature in the Pro Channel Channel Compressor?
2012/03/08 15:39:27
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Truthfully...I do not understand the concept of sidechaining.  Can someone point me to how, why and where and when to use it? ...or maybe point me to a good source of info on it? Thanks!
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Re:Can Someone explain the Sidechain feature in the Pro Channel Channel Compressor?
2012/03/08 15:43:34
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Re:Can Someone explain the Sidechain feature in the Pro Channel Channel Compressor?
2012/03/08 15:48:57
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Basically, sidechaining allows you to trigger an effect on one track by using the sound from another track. In other words, you can make a synth pad pulse in time by sidechaining it to your kick track. Every time the kick drum hits, the synth pad will momentarily drop in volume and then come back up. You hear this effect all the time on dance music, and more-and-more on pop hits. Here's a great Sound on Sound article that explains the details. http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov06/articles/sidechain.htm
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Re:Can Someone explain the Sidechain feature in the Pro Channel Channel Compressor?
2012/03/08 15:56:46
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Re:Can Someone explain the Sidechain feature in the Pro Channel Channel Compressor?
2012/03/08 16:20:16
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Good sources above but just a couple of comments. 1. Can be used for ducking a track or group. Radio does this when you hear the voice come forward and the music behind go down, but just when the voice is talking. 2. Can be used when two instruments compete for frequency range and you want one turned down slightly when the other is active. i.e. the kick for some types of music needs to be in your face. Duck the bass guitar which is in the same frequency range when the kick strikes. This gives you consistent punch. 3. Frequency specific ducking. Put an EQ in front of the compressor so that only a specific range is available when the compression starts. Let's say you want an acoustic guitar to duck slightly in the vocal range keyed by the voice or even the frequency range of another guitar. 4. Frequency specific ducking for reverb to control the reverb when a voice comes in loud. Lot's of uses. But the kick/bass and voice vs. music are the generally the most often used.
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Re:Can Someone explain the Sidechain feature in the Pro Channel Channel Compressor?
2012/03/08 20:56:11
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Middleman Good sources above but just a couple of comments. 1. Can be used for ducking a track or group. Radio does this when you hear the voice come forward and the music behind go down, but just when the voice is talking. I use that, thats the one everyone understands :) and the person on the trampoline affecting the levelness etc of the thing and it being dynamic AND being able to change in strength.
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Re:Can Someone explain the Sidechain feature in the Pro Channel Channel Compressor?
2012/03/08 21:14:18
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Middleman 3. Frequency specific ducking. Put an EQ in front of the compressor so that only a specific range is available when the compression starts. Let's say you want an acoustic guitar to duck slightly in the vocal range keyed by the voice or even the frequency range of another guitar. 4. Frequency specific ducking for reverb to control the reverb when a voice comes in loud. Frequency specific compression is also what de-essing is. Sidechain an EQ to a compressor and decrease the sibilant sounds in a vocal track.
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Re:Can Someone explain the Sidechain feature in the Pro Channel Channel Compressor?
2012/03/08 22:29:10
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Yep. So unless you find a really cool de-essor, you can make your own.
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Re:Can Someone explain the Sidechain feature in the Pro Channel Channel Compressor?
2012/03/09 22:28:40
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Re:Can Someone explain the Sidechain feature in the Pro Channel Channel Compressor?
2012/03/10 06:37:32
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Sidechaining is very common (more of a law;) in House and Trance Music. It is used to make more "pump" and a bit of a swing in the music. Often used with kickdrum and bass, when you want to avoid the low frequencies of drum and bass to collide. However, used in other music as well. Listen to Avicii or Swedish House Mafia, use it a lot;) Frostysnake Truthfully...I do not understand the concept of sidechaining. Can someone point me to how, why and where and when to use it? ...or maybe point me to a good source of info on it? Thanks!
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Re:Can Someone explain the Sidechain feature in the Pro Channel Channel Compressor?
2012/03/10 07:12:10
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Re:Can Someone explain the Sidechain feature in the Pro Channel Channel Compressor?
2012/03/10 07:18:20
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Re:Can Someone explain the Sidechain feature in the Pro Channel Channel Compressor?
2012/08/29 10:56:21
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Re:Can Someone explain the Sidechain feature in the Pro Channel Channel Compressor?
2012/08/29 13:04:53
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Re:Can Someone explain the Sidechain feature in the Pro Channel Channel Compressor?
2012/08/29 13:43:01
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Another use for side chaining is to duck an echo with a lot of feedback on a guitar solo.
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Re:Can Someone explain the Sidechain feature in the Pro Channel Channel Compressor?
2012/08/29 16:52:32
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Relating to a thread in Sonar Producer and Studio forum, here's a quick example I did with Sonitus Compressor showing a Kick drum compressing a Pad via the sidechain. Seeing this thread I thought I'd link the example here as well. The Pad for the first 25 seconds is untouched, when the Kick comes in you should hear obvious ducking and pumping of the Pad. http://soundcloud.com/stoons-1 "Sidechain"
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Re:Can Someone explain the Sidechain feature in the Pro Channel Channel Compressor?
2012/08/29 19:59:56
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Another classic example would be Daft Punk - One More Time.
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