panup
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AudioSnap: Extracting MIDI timing information from audio - is this a bug or by design?
That's what I have always thought when extracting MIDI from audio using AudioSnap but today I noticed that pich is raised by one note for each new clip like this:  See what I mean? I don't know if it has been like this before because I have always extracted only one audio clip at a time. Is this a bug or by design? PDF Guide page 611 says: "Note: All the new MIDI notes have the same pitch, .... "
Just curious...
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Re:AudioSnap: Extracting MIDI timing information from audio - is this a bug or by design?
2012/03/09 16:43:33
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I believe Audio Snap IS a bug.
I don't know of anyone that knows how to use it.
Some may get lucky and get AS to work on something once maybe twice.
I think the Bakers need to scrap the whole Audio Snap code and start over with a fresh clean slate.
Bake us up something intuitive, working and usable.
I know this doesn't answer Panup's issue and sorry for ranting in your thread.
But I consider Panup to be damn good when it comes to working around Sonar and PC's and if he can't do it, who can?
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panup
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Re:AudioSnap: Extracting MIDI timing information from audio - is this a bug or by design?
2012/03/10 08:02:11
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Nobody answered the question...
Is there any Baker online to confirm if this behavior is by design and what is the purpose of raising notes?
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Re:AudioSnap: Extracting MIDI timing information from audio - is this a bug or by design?
2012/03/10 09:53:34
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Panup I am not sure if that is by design or not. I thought I would chime in though and say that I have used AS on at least one track on every project I do. I am getting better at playing so I don't need it as much as I used to. Back to the topic, perhaps it is so that when you do this for for instance different drum instruments they at least end up on a unique note to make it easier to move them to the pitch you need. If that is the case it would seem that you would want to extract the entire track a one time instead of each clip. You could try merging the clips before extracting then they would all be on the same note.
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pwal
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Re:AudioSnap: Extracting MIDI timing information from audio - is this a bug or by design?
2012/03/10 09:58:11
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submit a bug report? at least you'll get an official response
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Karl Sanders
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Re:AudioSnap: Extracting MIDI timing information from audio - is this a bug or by design?
2012/03/10 10:42:12
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Panu ,
I also noticed this bug / - when I attempted to extract midi info from an audio click track - each resulting midi note would be a half step up . Being a click track, the midi quarter notes would just make a ridiculous diagonal climb across the clip the length of the song.
K
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panup
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Re:AudioSnap: Extracting MIDI timing information from audio - is this a bug or by design?
2012/03/10 10:48:40
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OK, seems like this is not intentional.
It's time to fill the Problem Reporter form.
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Karl Sanders
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Re:AudioSnap: Extracting MIDI timing information from audio - is this a bug or by design?
2012/03/10 11:35:39
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chefmike8888
I believe Audio Snap IS a bug.
I don't know of anyone that knows how to use it.
Some may get lucky and get AS to work on something once maybe twice.
I think the Bakers need to scrap the whole Audio Snap code and start over with a fresh clean slate.
Bake us up something intuitive, working and usable.
I know this doesn't answer Panup's issue and sorry for ranting in your thread.
But I consider Panup to be damn good when it comes to working around Sonar and PC's and if he can't do it, who can?
Mike
Mike, I dont think you are ranting at all. Everything you just wrote is the dead honest truth. K
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Re:AudioSnap: Extracting MIDI timing information from audio - is this a bug or by design?
2012/03/10 11:37:21
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I have seen this in the past and believe it's a bug. I have not tried this in a while, so can't confirm yet if it's in X1D. Personally, I think one of the reasons AudioSnap is confusing is due to the way the Sonar timeline works. I want two options for the timeline- "this song was played to a click and the tempo is..." and "this song was not played to a click, so DON'T show me beats and measures until I define them based on the program material.
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Re:AudioSnap: Extracting MIDI timing information from audio - is this a bug or by design?
2012/03/10 11:44:57
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Karl Sanders
chefmike8888
I believe Audio Snap IS a bug.
I don't know of anyone that knows how to use it.
Some may get lucky and get AS to work on something once maybe twice.
I think the Bakers need to scrap the whole Audio Snap code and start over with a fresh clean slate.
Bake us up something intuitive, working and usable.
I know this doesn't answer Panup's issue and sorry for ranting in your thread.
But I consider Panup to be damn good when it comes to working around Sonar and PC's and if he can't do it, who can?
Mike
Mike, I dont think you are ranting at all. Everything you just wrote is the dead honest truth.
K
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tunekicker
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Re:AudioSnap: Extracting MIDI timing information from audio - is this a bug or by design?
2012/03/10 11:46:54
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I also think it would be nice to rework the way that setting beats and measures to transients works. Clicking on a transient and hitting a number like 1, 2, 3, 4, etc. would move set the that transient as beat 1 in a new measure. If you did this only with beat one first, the relative distance between user defined beat one markers could be used to automatically set the meter for songs that transition between 3/4 and 4/4, etc. This should even be able to differentiate between 3/4 and 6/8 based on the tempo context and how many beat ones are defined for a given section of audio. Of course, setting the meter automatically like this would be an option you can turn on/off.
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Karl Sanders
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Re:AudioSnap: Extracting MIDI timing information from audio - is this a bug or by design?
2012/03/10 11:59:15
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tunekicker
I have seen this in the past and believe it's a bug. I have not tried this in a while, so can't confirm yet if it's in X1D. Personally, I think one of the reasons AudioSnap is confusing is due to the way the Sonar timeline works. I want two options for the timeline- "this song was played to a click and the tempo is..." and "this song was not played to a click, so DON'T show me beats and measures until I define them based on the program material.
Yes ! Yes ! Yes ! That would make our lives so much easier , and save countless hours of frustration. K
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