The Kiosk Project


+1 for the Reflexion Filter here too

And a +1 from me


Cheers

Grif

mudgel


If you have a Reflexion Filter and want to cheaply improve your acoustic recordings even more just hang a duvet in a corner and stand with your back to that with the reflexion filter in front of you as you sing/play acoustic instrument and see how much further improvement in recording quality you get.
Not a substitute for complete room treatment but if even 500 or 700 bucks is out of your range for home made treatments then the duvet and reflexion filter will work a real treat.

This is exactly how we record vocals/acoustic instruments - 2 duvets across one corner of a room, singer facing outwards facing the mic & Reflexion filter.

Bristol_Jonesey

Sven check out SoS - there is a feature somewhere which details how they modified setting the thing up so that the centre of gravity is moved forward, thereby increasing stability.

Thanks, yeah I did that and it's a definite improvement. But I'm happier still with the Filter on a seperate stand!

SvenArne

MrMook


Now I'm interested! Q for Reflexion Filter users: Some of the reviews I just read say this thing is "top-heavy". Not a lot of those comments, mind you. How does this thing mount/work on a normal mic stand? Thx.

It is terribly top heavy. I've got one stand up for the skreen and another for the mik. Stuff don't tumble to the floor anymore!
 
Another tip: Don't stikk the mik too far into the filter! You'll get komb filtering weirdness!

Will do.
 
Thanks for your reply.
 
I just ordered one.

bigsmoove23


for you to call someone stupid who does not understand acoustic treatment or does not know about acoustic treatment, that is childish and i would consider that attacking someone, the title was simply attention grabber, my beliefs has nothing to do with it. if you think it is stupid then fine, but keep your mouth shut about and your thoughts to yourself.

I apologize if I hurt your feelings. But, if you re-read my post you will see that I did not call you stupid.
I was referring to the title of your post in which you referred to a certain un-named group of "non-believers".
I was addressing them, whoever they are.

ie:---------------
"non-believers"???????? 

That's just stupidity. 

What's there to "believe"? 
What you put in is what you get out. 

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As far as keeping my mouth shut and feelings to myself, um, this is an open forum.
bite me.

mudgel


If you have a Reflexion Filter and want to cheaply improve your acoustic recordings even more just hang a duvet in a corner and stand with your back to that with the reflexion filter in front of you as you sing/play acoustic instrument and see how much further improvement in recording quality you get.
Not a substitute for complete room treatment but if even 500 or 700 bucks is out of your range for home made treatments then the duvet and reflexion filter will work a real treat.

Great tip as well Mike!!

I don't know the OP's background so maybe he had been in a conversation about room sound having impact on the microphone and somebody was a nay sayer. I hear the SM7 is a good mic to have for knocking out the room sound when recording but I don't have one...Yet!;-)

I put some weight on my mic stand as well so it doesn't have a chance of tipping. The 2 mic stands is a great idea. I put it all on one Se Electronic Ghost Microphone stand (I am not sure that it is still available) which is an AWESOME heavy duty mic stand. I read a thread (over at gearslutz me thinks) where a fellah from Se Electronics got on there and talked about the years that they put into it dealing with problems that arise from comb filtering and such in the making of the Reflexion Filter...I would think of it as a bridge until I could have any vocal recordings that are being done for my music to be done in a room specifically built for recording. But for now I love the recordings I get with mine...

In the end my solution was to construct 6'-high panels of 3"-thick 703, plus another panel to lay over the top of them, and thick carpet on the floor. Total cost was around $130. I stole the carpet from the bathroom and convinced my wife she needed a new one anyway.

This ^^^^^^^^^

I'm not convinced that one of these $300 'reflection' type filters will work as well as this even though they may impart a 'kewl' or 'pro' look to your environment..

Some people for practical purposes of having to use the same space they record in to live in as well.  For those people including myself an 'area' treatment although often having the  shortcomings Dave has mentioned will work much better than the limited treatment I could give my entire room without the other residents complaining.

Of course those fortunate enough to have a dedicated space to work how you set up that space will have far more bearing than different interfaces and such things will ever have.  An 'area' treatment is the next best thing.

I'd also agree that whilst Tim's posts may sometimes seem 'curt' because he doesn't colour hiw words in much, he's one of the good guys around here and by listening to any of his stuff you will realise he also knows a fair bit about what he is doing.

LOL.... Yeah I meant "to" the corners.

You can download a stepped bass sine wave or other sine waves from the internet. It's an eye opener, or is that ear opener?

I think TTS-1 will generate sine waves as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyYUpkpL0gw

Bass traps!!!

Lance

Tommy01: My panels are free-standing frames with feet made from 2x4's, which raises them up a few inches. I used 1x4 lumber to build a rectangular frame, then threaded wire (the wire they sell at the hardware store for hanging insulation between floor joists) through holes drilled into the frame in an "X" pattern to hold the fiberglass in place. After stuffing the 703 pieces in, a second wire was added to hold them in place.

I started to cover them with blue burlap for appearance but got bored with it after doing only two of them, so the other 6 of them are uncovered. I made 8 altogether, 2 to treat flutter echoes on either side of my monitors and 2 more were suspended from the ceiling over the mix position.

Thanks Lance for the youtube link, Nice!
Tommy