Steven Slate VCC

Trident
drive to taste : 0 +4
no oversampling
Global calibration-18 db

Just remember to load VCC on ALL tracks, ALL Buses, and Master, then drive it a little harder than you think you should.  As you note, VCC seems to have a subtle effect, but VCC is more noticeable and more effective if you put it on everything.  I made the mistake when I first got it of only putting it on only a couple of channels and I could hardly tell it was on; however, after reading several threads on this forum about VCC, I loaded it on all tracks, buses and master, and voila--it seems to have a more cumulative effect that is what you probably desire.

Dave King


So, which is which...?

The Trident is the Brit 4K?
The API is the US A?
Neve is Brit N?
What is the one with the symbol (not lettering?) emulating?

Thanks.

Trident       = the one with the symbol that looks like a pitch fork (AKA a trident)
Neve         = Brit N Discrete          
API           = USA Discrete     
SSL4000   = Brit 4k

Thanks for the info guys.  Yes, I have the manual (and an article from SOS as well) but neither details what actual mixers the VCC labels are referring to.

Thanks.

Detroitwilly


Question:  With the Prochannel in X1 (I have Expanded) - you put the VCC in the FX bin, but do you set the Prochannel to be Pre or Post FX bin?

It was my impression (I ordered VCC, it isn't here yet) that VCC was supposed to be before all effects.  If that is the case, prochannel would have to be post FX (if i'm using prochannel processors).  Which would, in that case, kill my ability to use other (outside prochannel) plugs in the signal chain, as any plug added at that point would be before the prochannel. 

Any thoughts?  or is it fine to put the VCC in the FX bin, and feed the prochannel (Compressor/EQ/Saturation/Ect.) signals through it?

Thanks!

Typically you'd insert it first in the chain however post is fine too.
Whatever fx is before it will hit & drive it a bit differently. 
Just make sure the VCC Mixbuss is on a master / summing buss.

Detroitwilly


Question:  With the Prochannel in X1 (I have Expanded) - you put the VCC in the FX bin, but do you set the Prochannel to be Pre or Post FX bin?

It was my impression (I ordered VCC, it isn't here yet) that VCC was supposed to be before all effects.  If that is the case, prochannel would have to be post FX (if i'm using prochannel processors).  Which would, in that case, kill my ability to use other (outside prochannel) plugs in the signal chain, as any plug added at that point would be before the prochannel. 

Any thoughts?  or is it fine to put the VCC in the FX bin, and feed the prochannel (Compressor/EQ/Saturation/Ect.) signals through it?

Thanks!

I asked this question on KVR.  Someone who seemed to know what they were talking about stated that for tracks/buses, location of the VCC didn't much matter.  But for master bus, VCC should come before all other effects.

Just got the ad for the Groove3 tutorial on VCC, and it shows how to calibrate it.  I had never tried using this feature.  Maybe this will help with the issue of having to drive the VCC so hard.  Anyway for you VCC fans here is the link: http://www.groove3.com/st...tal-vcc-explained.html
 

Very cool.  I'm gonna have to take a look at that video before the next time I fire up my DAW.

Thanks for the reminder!

I actually prefer my mixes to be stuck together with peanut butter.

Brit 4K
Achieves great clarity in the top end without being shrill and the overall wideness of the mix is noticeably improved
Clear and punchy but without a great deal of extraneous coloration
Good for various Instruments and Vocals
Good All-Around-er
Most transparent of the Consoles
US A Discrete
Shows improvement in the top end adding noticeable color to the drums and guitars and a crispness to the cymbals
Vocals have a punchier and more pronounced mid range
One of the more subtle consoles available in the VCC
Good on Mix Bus
Fairly Transparent
Brit N Discrete
Low end is noticeably thick and present
Overall sound has a thick crunchiness to it that really emulates that vintage sound
Good for Drums
Used only on drums and bass for instance will allow you to thoroughly drive the rhythm section of the mix without overly processing other more delicate instruments like vocals and acoustics
Noticeably classic British warmth in the bottom end
Does some nice things to the bottom
Ψ Trident
Provides a great deal of top end boost and crunch
This is clearly a rock console.
Using the Ψ console on instruments or vocals that were tracked a little on the warm or dark side will instantly achieve better clarity before even addressing the problem with EQ.
Best used when you want a more old school type of recording sound.
Brighter top and less lows than the Neve and works well for more rock oriented projects
RC-Tube
Very smooth and rolled off top end, thick dirty low end and ultra-present mid range
Awesome on electric bass amp mics to help drive home that vintage Ampeg type sound
Good for Bass
Best used when you want a more old school type of recording sound.
Ah... That's better.

If you really want a Neve sound, Golden Age preamp 73 is great and you can get them for around $250-$300.

I have a Pre73 and like it very much.  It has become my "go to" preamp instead of my Grace 101.