Synth unfreeze problem

intuneaudio


Hey hoping for some help because I'm in a tight bind right now.  

Here's the scenario. 

When I'm unfreezing synths the software instrument is loosing all it's settings. By that I mean, when it's Kontakt it's coming up with no instrument loaded in the Kontakt window.  Dimension is doing the same and Z3ta is loading with the default patch. 

To test I've added a few new instruments, tried freezing them. I'll unfreeze them and they are fine.  I'm thinking it's a Sonar issue because it's happening with different types of synths. 

It does seem to be isolated to just this project file. I've tested other files both current and up to 6 months old and they seem to be working fine. 
This is a video project. But it was unfreezing fine when I was working on it a few weeks ago. 
I updated to X1d pretty much when it came out.  I don't recall if I had done unfreezing since then before today (didn't really think I'd have to remember details like that). 

I haven't installed or updated anything else related to Sonar recently but everything is upto date. 

Any ideas? PLEASE!

I don't have a good answer for you other than to say that if your freeze settings "remove" the synth from memory, that may be an issue when you UNfreeze.   I don't use that setting so I've not had this problem.

Billy, if you're talking about the "unload synth on disconnect" option, I have that enabled and it doesn't prevent the synth settings from being saved and restored. When the track is un-frozen the synth is loaded and initialized to its previous state. Unless, of course, this is a new bug at X1d - I'm running 8.5.3.

Charlie: I'd be inclined to suspect a corrupt project file. If that's the case, you could probably fix it by un-freezing the synths, setting them back up the way you want, and then doing a Save-As to create a new project file.

I don't think it is limited to freezing / unfreezing.  I've had it happen too often to be coincidental.  You open up a project and one of your softsynths on a track is no longer making any sounds.  You go into the synth's UI and find that the patch and all of the settings are gone.  I've had it happen in Kontakt, Spectrasonics Trilian and possibly others.  It is maddening, because some of these have been tweaked to particular settings of glide rate, filter, ADSR, etc. to go along with the performance.  I have no idea what 1) the original patch was and 2) how many and which tweaks were done to it.
 
To make matters worse, I usually do a preview mixdown within the file to know what the mix sounded like when I was working on it.  Therefore I *KNOW* what I had it sounding like with an actual patch and it could take hours or potentially forever to try to recreate a the sound of a particular tweaked patch.
 
I'm terrified that this is going to mess up countless other projects at inopportune times.    Again this is happening to me even in situations  when I'm not freezing/unfreezing softsynths.

That one really sounds like a baaaaad one. Most PC-viruses do less damage than that!
I'm all ears to see further...:o/

Charlie, your best chance now is to open a support ticket with Cakewalk and send them your project. They may be able to determine what's corrupted in your project file and either fix it or recommend a workaround.

I hope you're now backing up projects frequently! It's worth picking up a cheap USB drive just for that purpose. 

Thanks for the replies and ideas guys. 

Bitflipper. I agree on backup. In case you need any ideas I use Crashplan. Really happy with it. Back up to 2 externals and in the cloud. Unfortunately didn't really help in this context because wasn't sure which revision and didn't feel like digging through for hours to find one where the synths would work without losing all the new parts. 

Cliff. Presets are great. I don't use them enough. 

At this point the project needed finished so I made do without being able to tweak the settings that I wanted to. That's life sometimes. 

Thanks again.