Basic Vocoder in Sonar

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2012/04/01 12:49:14 (permalink)

Basic Vocoder in Sonar

Could someone suggest a cheap or free vocoder plugin that works well in Sonar?
 
Can you use it in realtime?
Does it require rewire or midiloopback?
 
How is it done exactly?

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    Rasure
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    Re:Basic Vocoder in Sonar 2012/04/01 12:52:20 (permalink)
    You could try this :-)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK6CyNTwATg

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    Re:Basic Vocoder in Sonar 2012/04/01 13:06:16 (permalink)
    I do use Pentagon- it's coool and I have made some clients VERY happy with that effect.  However, it doesn't sound exactly like a traditional vocoder (or maybe it does if you pick the right patch?)



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    Re:Basic Vocoder in Sonar 2012/04/01 13:12:06 (permalink)

    i really like image-line's vocodex
    it's the best sounding software-vocoder out there, if you ask me

    i can't find any good video clips showing how good it is though...
    but here you can get a little taste anyway...
    jump to the time 1:49 and listen from there.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXa_LWJ_jYg

    it costs $99 but is totally worth it :)
    ...it's unfortunatelly 32bit, but i've heard they're working on a 64bit version


    edit:__________________
    best way to use it in sonar is to:
    insert it as a vst-effect on the audiotrack

    then use any other vst-instrument as a carrier by sending it to vocodex input..

    it makes the sounddesigning very flexible.. :)


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    Re:Basic Vocoder in Sonar 2012/04/01 13:34:58 (permalink)
    Rasure


    You could try this :-)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK6CyNTwATg


    Very helpful. I never realized Pentagon could do this.

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    Re:Basic Vocoder in Sonar 2012/04/01 14:02:28 (permalink)
    There's instructions on how to do it in this forum somewhere. Search around for them. 

    EDIT: Better yet... here's the video:

    http://www.cakewalk.com/CakeTV/SONARU.aspx/Go-Deeper
    post edited by daveny5 - 2012/04/02 23:24:13

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    Re:Basic Vocoder in Sonar 2012/04/02 07:21:51 (permalink)
    @ Loptec ... the creator of Vocodex (gol) has stated on the image-line forums that there will, in fact, be NO x64 version of Vocodex. he is not developing one. what a tragedy, because it sounds awesome, but is unusable in Sonar X1 x64, even with jBridge

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    Re:Basic Vocoder in Sonar 2012/04/02 09:37:43 (permalink)
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    @ Loptec ... the creator of Vocodex (gol) has stated on the image-line forums that there will, in fact, be NO x64 version of Vocodex. he is not developing one. what a tragedy, because it sounds awesome, but is unusable in Sonar X1 x64, even with jBridge


    What?! :(
    That's terrible news!!!!

    However.. I've got it to work with Sonar X1 64bit and bitbridge, though.. 

    2010 I made a cover of Kraftwerk's "The Robots", by using just Arturia's Minimoog and Vocodex. (I'm working on the video and will post it on youtube when it's ready) :P

    The project works just fine even though I use Sonar X1 64bit, so this shouldn't be a problem.. :O


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    Re:Basic Vocoder in Sonar 2012/04/02 17:43:57 (permalink)
    no mention of TAL's one?

    http://kunz.corrupt.ch/products/tal-vocoder

    and setting up

    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=1662193&mpage=1&print=true

    last post should be the same hopefully

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    Re:Basic Vocoder in Sonar 2012/04/02 18:17:12 (permalink)
    i use this 

    http://www.kvraudio.com/product/vokko_by_klanglabs


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    Re:Basic Vocoder in Sonar 2012/04/02 19:38:01 (permalink)
    Fog


    no mention of TAL's one?

    http://kunz.corrupt.ch/products/tal-vocoder

    and setting up

    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=1662193&mpage=1&print=true

    last post should be the same hopefully
    I had forgotten about TAL-Vocoder, and I see they have a x64 version.  Best of all - it's FREE!!!! My bad - it is donation ware.

    post edited by Jind - 2012/04/03 09:01:28

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    Re:Basic Vocoder in Sonar 2012/04/03 00:37:52 (permalink)
    Jind


    I had forgotten about TAL-Vocoder, and I see they have a x64 version.  Best of all - it's FREE!!!! 



    donation-ware really.. they do good stuff.

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    Re:Basic Vocoder in Sonar 2012/04/03 09:00:23 (permalink)
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    Jind


    I had forgotten about TAL-Vocoder, and I see they have a x64 version.  Best of all - it's FREE!!!! 



    donation-ware really.. they do good stuff.

    You are absolutely correct, I'll edit my post to make that clear. 


    I used TAL on a project a while back and had forgotten about it.  Your link brought me to the x64 version download which I'll have to give a try and see if it's something I'll use in the future.  I don't have much of a need for a Vocoder, but it did work well so perhaps it's time to upgrade.

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