Kewl Hendagang
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Re:X1d... Still not functioning right yet and I trully wish it were.
2012/04/11 20:55:51
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gcolbert... From the top: "The media browser works. It just dosen't work the same way it used to. My new Mustang doesn't work the same way that my 69' did. Things change when upgrades happen. I can't live without the high-beam switch being on the floor next to the clutch!" The media browser does work... up to X1C. It is broken in X1D. You can't browse the sounds or loops using your keyboard arrows anymore, like you could in the previous versions, and like you can on other applications. Fix/Broken/Fix/Broken pattern right there. "The whole issue about how bus grouping should work was not a clear consensus and a lot of people provided their opinion of how it should work to Cake. It just happens that the solution that Cake took (with a lot of user input) was not a solution that you like." You obviously did not read my posts. Am I complaining about the layout or the way to do things? I am not. I'm complaining about the fact that actions and commands applied on quick groupped tracks do not function ALL THE TIME. Randomly, if you were to send multiple quick group tracks to an AUX, SOME tracks might make it to the AUX, SOME might not. We call this a bug, and a pretty serious one. "The problems that you (and a lot of other people) are having with Melodine in the X1d release does not prevent you from using Melodine. It just means that you can't fast-bounce Melodine tracks. Get a cup of coffee. Could be this gets fixed in X1n or X2, could be that it doesn't. Regardless, it is the tool that you have." What melodyne problem? not aware of that, you got the wrong thread - "I think that it is critical to distinguish between design features and decisions that Cake has to make from bugs and unstable code. I have seen Cake go to some impressive lengths to fix bugs. A lot more often I've been told that things are working as designed and that I just need to learn to use the tool. If 'a feature' is working as designed then it is the tool that we have to work with." You're talking about layout and workflow complaints. you got the wrong thread again. this thread is about stability. "Bummer that changing things kills your vibe. This probably wouldn't be as big a distraction if you spent more time learning what the new features (good and bad) were and how they worked. Trying to use the same shortcut keystrokes that you used in a previous release is probably real frustrating. The alternative is to reinstall XP and go back to 8.5. I wonder if I could buy the old Mustang back?" ahaaahah ok ok so I see you just here to vent on the multiple complaints of X1 being so different compared to 8.5.3 - Wrong thread, Cake-Knight, Defender-Of-The-X1-Brotherhood ;) "It IS about the finished product. You could have the same results if you were using PT or Cubase or any other DAW. That you are working in X1 (when you have a lot of other options) tells me that, problems and all, X1 is the better tool for your workflow. A professional learns how to use his/her tools to get the job done." We agree. Now let's all move towards making X1 finally stable & reliable.
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gcolbert
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Re:X1d... Still not functioning right yet and I trully wish it were.
2012/04/11 21:14:39
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I believe you have somewhat missed the point of this whole post. Just what, exactly, is the point of the post? This is a user forum where users try to help each other solve problems and teach each other how to best use X1. What actionable results are in the OP that Scott G., Beagle, or possibly even I can do to help the situation? It is little more than a disgruntled rant (deserved or not) that the people on this board can do nothing to help. Possibly we could all take a trip to Boston, put on peasant clothes, light oiled torches and storm Cake's office at Midnight? The truth is that we have what we have. Learn to use it.
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Kewl Hendagang
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Re:X1d... Still not functioning right yet and I trully wish it were.
2012/04/12 11:31:08
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Glen, Why do you keep repeating ''Learn to use it''. If you had a hammer, knew how to use it, and after a while noticed that the head started to get loose, would you blame your own knowledge of the tool? You wouldn't. It makes no sense. When the tool keeps getting updated and updated and patched and this and that, there's a greater risk of undoing the good and with Sonar it happens more often than not. It's an observation of a fact. If anything more people should honk their horn if the complaints are legitimate.
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gcolbert
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Re:X1d... Still not functioning right yet and I trully wish it were.
2012/04/12 17:33:15
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Kewl, A hammer isn't a very good analogy. Think more like an airplane, and every time it goes in for an annual airworthiness inspection it comes back with changes made to the flight instruments and controls. The PTT is still there for the radio, but it might not be in exactly the same place. This dosen't make the plane unflyable, it just means that you have to learn where things are every year. I'm not making an argument that X1 is perfect. Obviously it is causing problems with your workflow. It will continue to cause the same problems with your workflow until a new release comes out. Will the problems that you are encountering be fixed? That depends mostly on how good of a problem report you filed with Cakewalk and with how many other users are affected by the problem. Are the problems that you are encountering repeatable or is it just a transient thing (that could have resulted from you doing something that you don't think you did)? Did you create a clearly enough detailed recipie in the problem report that a baker can take it and make the same problem happen? The programmers can't fix a problem that they can't recreate. You might consider posting your problem, the recipie to create it, and what your expected results are here to see if anyone else has the same problem (and how many). If you are the only one having the problem it might (possibly) just be something in your setup and not an X1 problem at all. A lot of users being able to recreate it would provide some motivation for Cake to address it, but just bit$%*ing dosen't give anyone a thing to work with to correct the problem. The programmers aren't clairvoyant (calling the help desk doesn't count - you have to open problem reports). Give them something material to work with and I'll bet they give you the results you want to see. They have for me. We're all busy, but if you can't find the time to create the problem report, at least explain how you got there clearly enough that I (or some other interested user) can pick up the problem and create the ticket. In the mean time, you might want to figure out where they moved the flap controls to on the plane because you have to land sometime.
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stevec
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Re:X1d... Still not functioning right yet and I trully wish it were.
2012/04/12 18:09:48
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You might consider posting your problem, the recipie to create it, and what your expected results are here to see if anyone else has the same problem (and how many). Kewl did list two at the top of this page, the first of which is a known (or at least reported) Browser issue that requires using the mouse instead of keyboard, and the second which seems to be an intermittent Grouping problem that I personally have never seen. I can't imagine that's the whole ball of wax...
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gcolbert
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Re:X1d... Still not functioning right yet and I trully wish it were.
2012/04/12 20:56:27
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intermittent Grouping problem that I personally have never seen. I've seen several posts about track and group selection. I've never been able to replicate the problem (and I have tried). This probably has something to do with how the tracks are selected or something in the bus (probably brought in with the template), but as far as I know no one has been able to replicate the problem dependably.
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Bub
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Re:X1d... Still not functioning right yet and I trully wish it were.
2012/04/12 22:40:36
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Hmm, this must be yet another of those vague X1D threads John T was talking about.
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trimph1
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Re:X1d... Still not functioning right yet and I trully wish it were.
2012/04/13 00:00:38
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I've seen the browser issue here once but since I do use the mouse more than keyboard it really is not a showstopper here
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