How do I change an audio clip to a groove clip

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2012/04/14 16:53:56 (permalink)

How do I change an audio clip to a groove clip

 Hey there...
 
I have a little problem in sonar X1...nothing to really stress about, but I am wondering how to change an audio clip into a groove clip ? so  that I can extent it across the project. I already know the method to select groove clip from the edit menu , however every time I try this approach the timing is badly off. what are the correct steps I should be executing. My jazz projects are ten  and fifteen mintues long and really do not wish to hold the bassline so long.
 
thanking you in anticipation
Carlisle  
      
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    SteveStrummerUK
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    Re:How do I change an audio clip to a groove clip 2012/04/14 16:58:21 (permalink)

    Hi there Carlisle

    Just right click on the clip and select Groove-Clip Looping from the options.

    Or use Ctrl+L on your PC keyboard.

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    Re:How do I change an audio clip to a groove clip 2012/04/14 17:01:55 (permalink)
    Below is from page 640 of the Manual

    Creating and editing Groove Clips

    Any audio clip can be converted to a Groove clip. Groove clips contain tempo, beat, and pitch
    information which SONAR uses to stretch and transpose the clips to match the project. Most Groove
    clips are loop-enabled, meaning that you can use the mouse to drag clip repetitions in the Track
    view. Groove clips can be either loop-enabled or not, although they usually are. When a Groove clip
    is loop-enabled, its edges appear beveled. It is sometimes desirable to create clips that follow the
    project’s tempo and key, but are not intended to loop. The following is a list of the attributes
    contained in a Groove clip:
    • Beats in clip. The number of quarter notes in a clip. A four measure clip in 4/4 time should have
    16 beats. When you enable looping for a clip, SONAR calculates the number of beats in the clip
    using an algorithm. This calculation is very often accurate, but in some cases, for instance when
    the clip has a very slow or very fast tempo or if the clip has an unusual number of beats, then the
    number of beats in a clip may have to be edited manually in the Beats in clip field.
    • Original tempo. The original tempo of the recording. SONAR uses the original tempo to adjust
    to your project’s tempo. The original tempo must be specified for stretching clips.
    • Reference note. The original key of the recorded clip. SONAR uses the Reference note when it
    transposes Groove clips to match your project’s pitch.
    These attributes can be edited in the Loop Construction view. For more information about the Loop
    Construction view, see “Loop Construction view” on page 1767.
    To set the number of beats in a Groove Clip
    When you open a clip in the Loop Construction view, SONAR determines the number of beats in the
    clip. In some cases the beat value may not be correct. The beats in clip value can only be changed if
    the clip is loop enabled.
    Do the following to change value in the Beats in clip field.
    • Click the Plus or Minus button to the right of the Beats in clip field until the correct value is
    displayed.
    To change the Loop Construction view Time ruler display
    You can display the Loop Construction view Time Ruler in measures or in samples. To toggle
    between the two modes, double click the Time Ruler.

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    Re:How do I change an audio clip to a groove clip 2012/04/14 21:45:50 (permalink)
    +1 to John for posting that.

    Over a long period, I've seen a lot of questions like the OP's about Groove Clipping.

    If the clip isn't beat matched, so to speak, then it will be out of sync at some point.

    So what John posted from the manual is very important to understand, dare i say.

    A 5 beat clip is going to "loop" weirdly in a 4/4 groove, right? ;)

    And that is generally the most common mistake (ie, mismatched beats in clip).



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    C Oneal
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    Re:How do I change an audio clip to a groove clip 2012/04/17 21:34:45 (permalink)
    Hello MR Steve Strummer
     
    Thank you for the infro...it is working prefect !  To execute this function for what I was trying do to my  in project. I had to record 4 bars in  keeping with the time and have snap to grid turn on.
     
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    Carlisle oneal
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    Re:How do I change an audio clip to a groove clip 2012/04/17 21:39:19 (permalink)
    Hello John
     
    Thanks for the infromation...It is how functions prefect !
     
    Best regard from Barbados
    Carlisle Oneal
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