konradh
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Metering with Track Armed (in Record)
When I arm a track and record, I see the meter correctly reflecting the level. When I turn record off (disarm the track) and play it back, the meter works correctly. However, if I play back with the track still armed, the meter shows a very low level, even though I can hear the full level being played back. This is messed up. Sometimes I want to play back a portion of a track quickly, check the level, and punch in if it is not right. It is very inconvenient to arm and disarm the track constantly during punch-ins. s there some setting that will make Sonar meter correctly whether or not the track is armed? Thanks.
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Re:Metering with Track Armed (in Record)
2012/04/19 23:02:02
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with the record arm on whats being shown is the input coming into that track regardless of whats being played back. thats what I want to see, seems correct to me. you can change what range the meters show at any state. playback, record, main and buss even hold peaks and show RMS level goto options/ meters
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Re:Metering with Track Armed (in Record)
2012/04/19 23:14:05
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The level must of been what the mic was picking up from your monitors while playing back in record mode. I think the important thing is when punching in and out on the same track, DONT touch any settings/level while completing that track, (Atleast for me anyway) 
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Re:Metering with Track Armed (in Record)
2012/04/19 23:16:44
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Not sure if it would work but heres an idea. Route the track to a buss set up so the levels reflect the same then maybe you could use the buss as a levels monitor while working on the tracks punch in and outs. Just a thought
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Re:Metering with Track Armed (in Record)
2012/04/20 03:15:11
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Bingo digi2ns - The track will show incoming levels and the buss will show outgoing levels.
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Re:Metering with Track Armed (in Record)
2012/04/20 03:33:46
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It is metering correctly. If armed it's showing input levels, once disarmed it's showing playback levels. I don't know of a way of changing that.
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konradh
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Re:Metering with Track Armed (in Record)
2012/04/20 11:07:28
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Thanks, everyone. Mike's idea sounds good.
For the record, I am doing this with headphones on and the meter is responding along with the recording, but just at a lower level, so it is odd—but sounds like we have a work-around.
The particular issue was that a few plosives were hitting the red on an otherwise good track, just because of the nature of the song and phrasing. I could have lowered mic trim and redone the whole track, but didn't want to lose the good parts.
Why didn't this come up before? Because the singers I record (including myself) are usually very consistent plus I use mild compression on the external pre-amp/channel strip. This song is just odd and had hot spots. It is a bluegrass piece from a musical comedy with very fast words and little time to breathe.
In old analog studios I used to run, there were three metering/monitoring modes: tape only, input only, or tape until you hit record, at which time you got input—but that is ancient stuff: Ampex or MCI 24-tracks with big boards.
No worries and thanks again.
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Re:Metering with Track Armed (in Record)
2012/04/20 13:46:48
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In Sort (very short)
If track is armed, it reads the recording level coming into that track.
If track is not armed, it reads the audio level output of that track.
CJ
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