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2012/04/20 16:39:12 (permalink)

Insecure

It sometimes gets tiring when a person keeps on downing you and mocking you in front of your friends and listeners in the public web. I know i'm still an improving live vocalist, especially that playing the fretless is both challenging and tiring while doing harsh vocals, since i can't cup my hand on the mic. I also get tense when i don't hear myself. I also know to myself that it was just a bad performance at that time, but those feelings sometimes just turns to pessimism.

We were friends once but then he turned all against me when i defended another friend from his arrogance. A friend of mine got a gift from another friend, then this "guy" then commented on the photo of the gift and told the receiver that "That item sucks. Sell it and buy a different model! :D". I then thought that he shouldn't have said that because both the receiver and the giver would be upset, and the giver was a close friend of mine too. But then he became hostile and a "sore loser".

If he's trying to upset me, he's winning. A minute ago i was happy with a pre-prod of a new song, but now i'm down. I feel i shouldn't be because i know he's insecure or still pissed. How do you handle such things? Ignoring - Yeah, but sometimes it's hard to do that.

Sorry for the serious topic, i've got no friends awake now..



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    The Maillard Reaction
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    Re:Insecure 2012/04/20 16:50:12 (permalink)

    It's hard to have a good work partner that is also a hang out buddy.

    If it's just a good work partner the focus is on success.

    If it's your best buddy the focus shifts towards happiness, life, comparisons etc. etc.

    Mixing work and play seems natural when you are younger and becomes more difficult as people get older and have expectations that either are or aren't being met.

    It's one of the harder things to get used to as you and you friends start to branch out into different interests.

    All you can do is ride it out and try to stay friends while working through the issues. You can and will learn to set your self up in more straight forward working relations and situations in the future. It's natural.



    I really don't have much advice to offer but it seemed like someone should offer a gesture of understanding, so to speak.

    Good luck,
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    SeveredVesper
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    Re:Insecure 2012/04/20 16:52:24 (permalink)
    @Mike

    Thanks Mike. And I'm sorry, i just don't know where to vent or place my sentiments..

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    Re:Insecure 2012/04/20 17:07:16 (permalink)
    After some hesitation....I'll comment anyway. IMO....be comfortable with who you are regardless of what others may say. Your friend (ahem) is the insecure one if he takes pleasure in "mocking you in front of your friends and listeners in the public web". This person has no impact on your personal life so do not validate the negative comments by giving it any more thought. If I don't respect someone as a person NOTHING they say has any relevance in my life. Rise above your this emotional reaction to him/comments. I re-iterate "be comfortable with who you are"...end of story. Note: this was just quick response, shot from the hip as I could on...but I won't. That's my take on it...carry on.
    post edited by Quazelar - 2012/04/20 17:13:07

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    Re:Insecure 2012/04/20 17:11:04 (permalink)
    No need to apologize. This place has all kinds of purposes. Try not to let negative influences affect your attitude. Keep him at arms length for awhile, and things will probably settle down between you guys. If not, might be time to move on to a different kind of friendship.

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    Re:Insecure 2012/04/20 17:12:47 (permalink)
    It seems like art the forum is imitating life the forum these days.

    Or is it just me reading into things that just aren't there?

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    Re:Insecure 2012/04/20 17:20:25 (permalink)
    Here is a quote from Dr Joseph Murphy from that amazing book 'The Power of Your Subconscious Mind' A book that everyone should read IMO.

    "The suggestions and statements of others have no power to hurt you. The only power is the movement of your own thought. You can choose to reject the thoughts and statements of others and affirm the good. You have the power to choose how you will react"



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    Re:Insecure 2012/04/20 17:22:43 (permalink)
    Thanks Jeff.

    Even when we KNOW that, sometimes we forget.
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    Re:Insecure 2012/04/20 17:34:36 (permalink)
    It always helps me if I keep an absent mind

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    Re:Insecure 2012/04/20 17:36:45 (permalink)
    Thank you so much everyone. Really..

    As for the friendship part, we're no longer friends, we weren't close anyway, but he just sometimes pops up and destroys me in the public net or something whenever he feels like. But thanks for the heads up. I know that i have no respect for him, so i should not be affected, and so is the part that i can choose to affirm the positive or rational ones only.

    Well, thanks again everyone. I just wanted to know how you take this kinds of the things. I've had very few enemies in my life, maybe less than 5, and i'm not yet that old, so maybe that's why i'm still adjusting with stuff. Like my father always tells me, "This world is screwed up, there are alot of insecure people everywhere".



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    Re:Insecure 2012/04/20 18:13:07 (permalink)
    OK Severed now for the hard part! Here are three quotes from the same incredible book by Joseph Murphy in the chapter on forgiveness.

    'Resentment, hatred, ill will and hostility are behind a host of maladies. Forgive yourself and everybody else by pouring out love, life, joy and goodwill to all who have hurt you. Continue until such time as you can meet them in your mind and know that you are at peace with them"


    "To forgive is to give something for. Give love, peace, joy, wisdom, and all the blessings of life to the other, until there is not sting left in your mind. This is the acid test of forgiveness"


    'If someone has hurt you, lied about and vilified you, and has said all manner of evil about you, is your thought of that person negative? If so, you have not yet forgiven. The roots of hatred are still in your subconscious mind, playing havoc with you and your good. The only way to wither those roots is with love. Wish for the person all the blessings of life. This is meaning of Forgive until seventy times seven"

    So what do you think of those little gems of advice. I know that is going to be hard. Having no respect for him is not the way to go. You can do it. You sound like someone who I think can.



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    Re:Insecure 2012/04/20 18:44:49 (permalink)
    'Resentment, hatred, ill will and hostility are behind a host of maladies. Forgive yourself and everybody else by pouring out love, life, joy and goodwill to all who have hurt you. Continue until such time as you can meet them in your mind and know that you are at peace with them"


    This is great one Jeff.

    Although I've not read the book you mention this is pretty much how I work on forgiveness.  It might sound daft to some but sometimes I'll imagine the person in an empty chair in the room and deal with it like they are actually there.

    It's easy to scoff at this stuff but when you find the benefit in your own peace of mind, it makes the effort worthwhile.

    I've even bumped into people I'd hoped I'd never see again after doing this kind of thing with no shocks or feelings of ill will on meeting them.  It may sound like hocus pocus to some but it is very practical when you discover it works.

    I don't spend everyday talking to an empty chair of course but when it's something that keeps eating away as described in Severed's OP is when I find it is most helpful.

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    Re:Insecure 2012/04/20 19:09:17 (permalink)
    He's only doing it because he (conciously or not) feels inferior to you and, instead of trying to better himself, must knock others around him down.  Although you might not see it, every time you remain yourself and standup for your friends when you should it will definitely get noticed by the people who are most important to you and the other guy will soon find the only one he is fooling is himself.

    The correct path is rarely the easiest.

     
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    Re:Insecure 2012/04/20 19:39:10 (permalink)
    Great thoughts Jeff.  Thanks much.  Good thread to all.

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    Re:Insecure 2012/04/20 20:16:21 (permalink)
    Those books are B.S. Don't say it won't happen again, because if you let it happen the first time they will keep on going on with it. The action to take is just to find new friends and forget and do not put up with the old ones. I know from personal experience that only evil lurks in their cold black hearts. Never anything else, and only will they make you a slave in the sense that you do not hold more esteem for yourself in the first place.

     
     
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    Re:Insecure 2012/04/21 01:09:02 (permalink)
    The Bapu


    It seems like art the forum is imitating life the forum these days.

    Or is it just me reading into things that just aren't there?

    The forum is a microcosm of society.

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    Re:Insecure 2012/04/21 14:25:46 (permalink)
    Thanks again guys. I feel better now. [:)}

    Back to making music!

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    Re:Insecure 2012/04/21 17:06:44 (permalink)
    In my 57+ years I have discovered that many people who I thought were my friends simply turned out to be acquaintances. When the times get tough that is when you see who your true friends are. Never forget though, who you are in the midst of troubles. 

    A true friend can stand the slings and arrows and is someone you can speak truth to and will speak truth to you.  A true friend is very hard to find. 

    Don't let this disappointment get you side tracked.  Keep focused on your path and your mission. Better friends will come your way. 

    When you find a true friend...... hold on to that person and guard that relationship. 

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    Re:Insecure 2012/04/23 08:56:17 (permalink)
    I have a couple of friends who drifted apart this way.  In an effort to "joke around", one used to mock the other's singing.  The one being mocked knew it was a joke, but it began to hurt anyway, especially since it didn't stop.  Eventually, the chasm between them grew to the point where the relationship disappeared. 

    There are good critics and bad ones.  A good critic will always give you an accurate evaluation with the intent of helping you to improve.  A bad one will either tear you down or flatter you with neither extreme being all that accurate or helpful.  As you encounter all these voices, it's important to focus on the good ones.  They're the ones that have your best interests at heart.
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