Latency

Hello! I'm new here and this is my first post, so I hope I'll get some answers.
I used to have Sonar 8.5, and I was satisfied, but then I got X1 Producer for my birthday recently and am satisfied again. But, with both, I've had around 6ms latency when recording audio, and I couldn't get rid of it. No need to tell you how irritating it can be. I have M-Audio Delta 44 sound card, Windows 7 OS, 2 GB RAM, and the latest drivers for my sound card have been installed; upgrading to Sonar X1 did reduce the latency to 5.6 ms, but... I've also read a lot about it, and from what I understood Windows 7 systems do have some latency. I've also reduced my buffer size to 64 (the lowest) on my sound card.
 
Can I get rid of the latency? And how?
 
Thanks!
 
Goran

Bristol_Jonesey


There will always be a certain amount of latency in any digital system - it takes a finite amount of time to process the countless stream of 0's & 1's, so no, you'll never get rid of it completely.

5.6ms is a perfectly workable latency. It's exactly the same latency as you'd get listening to a drummer 1.9 metres away - i.e totally negligible.

So, that latency is low then. OK. But, is there a way to reduce it even more? 

Yes, I know you've already replied. I posted the thread twice by mistake, I had some internet connection problems while posting the first time. Sorry.

Is it an electronic piano? Then monitor from the headphone jack on the piano or get a mixer and monitor from the mixer that way you don't have to deal with the latency you get monitoring through the soundcard. 

daveny5


Is it an electronic piano? Then monitor from the headphone jack on the piano or get a mixer and monitor from the mixer that way you don't have to deal with the latency you get monitoring through the soundcard. 

Yes, it's an electric/electronic piano. I monitor from the headphone jack when I have to record only piano, but when I have to add a piano track to previosly recorded tracks, the latency kicks in. I guess I should get a mixer and figure a way around it.
 
Thanks.

wizard71


yes 13.2 is the one.
I had better results with the WDM driver with my delta 1010. Have you tried that?

Bibs

No, I haven't tried it. I'll give it try now.
But, what exactly do you mean by "better results"? What was the latency?
 
Goran

The Delta series soundcards work better with the WDM driver. 

 
Tried the WDM driver, didn't work at all. It couldn't even recognize the Delta sound card. BUT...after uninstalling the WDM driver and trying to reinstall the M-AUDIO driver (the one that had been installed)...couldn't do it, because, as it said my system was not modified and the driver didn't support my system. After about an hour of trying to figure out the problem, it finally got to me! Windows update had updated my system to Windows 7 Service Pack 1! So, I tried the driver for the updated Service Pack 1, and it WORKED! Boy, did it work!
It REDUCED MY LATENCY TO 7,4! From 13,2 to 7,4! That's what Sonar X1 says! So, that was the problem all along! Windows update updated my system! And all I had to do was to update the sound card driver accordingly! Update your drivers, friends! Or turn Windows update off.
 
HOORAY!!!
 
Is 7,4 any good??

Wow Ive replied to the other thread on this and have been waiting patiently to see how things are going.

Press the [DPC] button on the tool bar and try that when recording and switch it back for playback.  Does this do anything for ya?