Sidechaining with Fabfilter Pro-C, Strange Stereo Vs. Mono Issue

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2012/04/30 20:36:54 (permalink)

Sidechaining with Fabfilter Pro-C, Strange Stereo Vs. Mono Issue

Ok, so I primarily work using mono channels and recently I have started working with Fabfilter-C mono (SC) which is the mono version of the plugin which supports external sidechaining.  For some reason, Sonar cannot see the sidechain input of the mono plugin, but if I switch to Fabfilter-C (stereo) Sonar has no trouble and the plugin shows in my send to options.  I can reproduce this everytime.
 
It is ok that I have to use a stereo instance of Fabfilter instead of the mono one, but does anyone know what is going on?  Can someone with the Fabfilter compressor please try to reproduce this?
 
I have double-checked and the interleave option is off on the channel I am trying to sidechain.
 
 

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    Re:Sidechaining with Fabfilter Pro-C, Strange Stereo Vs. Mono Issue 2012/04/30 20:59:11 (permalink)
    try using the stereo version on a mono track ...

    oops just saw that you tried ....i usually always use stereo even when i have mono versions ...to gain time and plugin layout space !

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    Re:Sidechaining with Fabfilter Pro-C, Strange Stereo Vs. Mono Issue 2012/04/30 21:38:47 (permalink)
    I've put the stereo instance on a mono track, if you load one of the Fab presets that's mid-side you'll get some weird results (well duh, its mid-side).
    Not sure on the side chaining issue with mono. I'll check that out next trip out to the studio.

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    Re:Sidechaining with Fabfilter Pro-C, Strange Stereo Vs. Mono Issue 2012/04/30 21:48:29 (permalink)
    Ok, thanks for the replies, I will continue to put the stereo compressor on the mono track.

    Just seems to be the wrong thing to do, but it works!

    thanks!

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    Re:Sidechaining with Fabfilter Pro-C, Strange Stereo Vs. Mono Issue 2012/04/30 21:49:46 (permalink)
    Click on the "Expert" button, then on the "Ext" button under "SIDE CHAIN"

    Edit: oops, spoke too soon. I just tried the above and still couldn't see the SC input in the Insert Send popup menu. I'm pretty sure that's what I've done in the past, but I must have been using the stereo version.

    Edit 2: that's weird. I inserted the stereo SC plugin and it didn't show up, either, until I deleted several instances of SPAN. It would appear that there is a maximum number of routing destinations that can be listed in the context menu. This is not your problem, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

    BTW, using a stereo compressor on a mono track can sometimes cause a weird separation of left and right transients. I've observed this with Pro-C as well as some other compressors. It's like there's a very short delay between left and right channels. It isn't always an unpleasant effect, though.
    post edited by bitflipper - 2012/04/30 22:07:01


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    Re:Sidechaining with Fabfilter Pro-C, Strange Stereo Vs. Mono Issue 2012/04/30 23:12:20 (permalink)
    Sonar has had some SC issues, so I wonder if a little buggy poo snuck back in?

    Not sure how do find out for sure though :(


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    Re:Sidechaining with Fabfilter Pro-C, Strange Stereo Vs. Mono Issue 2012/05/01 14:34:35 (permalink)
    A google search turned up no mention of this problem. I think this is one for the CW folks to look at. Phonic, have you opened a support request?


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    Re:Sidechaining with Fabfilter Pro-C, Strange Stereo Vs. Mono Issue 2012/05/02 02:15:37 (permalink)
    Bitflipper, no I haven't opened a support request, but I will do that shortly.

    Thanks for the input, I am glad I am not the only one seeing this.

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    Re:Sidechaining with Fabfilter Pro-C, Strange Stereo Vs. Mono Issue 2012/05/02 12:43:16 (permalink)
    same here - stereo works, mono not ...

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    Re:Sidechaining with Fabfilter Pro-C, Strange Stereo Vs. Mono Issue 2012/05/02 12:56:38 (permalink)
    I have just submitted a report to Cakewalk.  If I get any updates I will add them to this thread.


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    Re:Sidechaining with Fabfilter Pro-C, Strange Stereo Vs. Mono Issue 2012/05/02 13:56:56 (permalink)
    volcano2 also behaves the same (but it's also fabfilter)... i had a quick browse in my vsts for more mono-with-sc, but i can't find any (anyone know any others?)... some stereo-sc plugs work as expected (voxengo, wavearts do, but klanghelm doesn't show as a send at all - i.e., those working show up in the sends destination dropdown)... all versions work as expected in another host... i wonder if sonar's mono tracks are really mono-stereo tracks in some way? like, only using 1 of the 2 channels of a stereo track or something(c.f., simple instrument tracks) [/speculation]

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