jwh
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Got my KRK Rokit 8's
Hi, Just a quick update on my last post a few days ago, I got my new monitors, KRK Rokit 8's they are awsome, only thing is, the material I've recored recently, sounds really bassy on them so now now I'll have to re mix a lot of stuff, well, all my recent material actually, but I'm really glad I got them, just a case now of getting used to them I suppose, again thanks to everyone who, well, helped me make, what I think is the right choice of monitors. Thanks John
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chulaivet1966
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Re:Got my KRK Rokit 8's
2012/05/05 15:34:31
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Very cool...I'm quite pleased with mine. As I stated in your initial thread...when I checked my original material mixed on JBL4410's (for over 20 years) I did not have to re-mix any of them. The JBL's had flat response but as I understand it now most studio monitors are 'flat' anyway which may be why it worked out well in my case. Carry on....enjoy.
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Re:Got my KRK Rokit 8's
2012/05/05 16:00:47
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I have Rokit 6s which sound essentially the same (in regards to EQ) as my previous near-field monitors. Not sure that proves anything, but I feel pretty confident mixing with them. Are your 8s isolated from your desktop?
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Re:Got my KRK Rokit 8's
2012/05/05 17:30:24
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In my experience, flat 8" monitors are the best balance for a home studio.
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chulaivet1966
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Re:Got my KRK Rokit 8's
2012/05/05 18:28:06
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konradh.....if you're asking me I'm not sure I understand what you mean by 'isolated'? My DAW is set up in closet and my 8's are on a shelf to my left so I have to turn my chair 90 degrees to mix. If you're not talking to me ignore my dumb ash and I'll go have a Sam Adams...carry on.
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Re:Got my KRK Rokit 8's
2012/05/05 21:00:47
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jwh Hi, Just a quick update on my last post a few days ago, I got my new monitors, KRK Rokit 8's they are awsome, only thing is, the material I've recored recently, sounds really bassy on them so now now I'll have to re mix a lot of stuff, well, all my recent material actually, but I'm really glad I got them, just a case now of getting used to them I suppose, again thanks to everyone who, well, helped me make, what I think is the right choice of monitors. Thanks John Hi JWH, At the risk of saying this too much, don't forget your reference tracks now that you have your speakers. Fall back on them again so that you can set a new normal for how stuff is supposed to sound. Good luck Dean
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TraceyStudios
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Re:Got my KRK Rokit 8's
2012/05/06 12:15:17
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JWH: You said you have to remix some stuff because it is too bassy. Have you remixed anything and heard it on another system (car, home stereo, ipod etc)? Did it transate well after mixing on the KRKs? Did it transate better then the previous speakers? Asking cuz I am saving my pennies to get pair of Rokit 8s myself. Have heard much debate about which is better the 6s or 8s. But I want the 8s. I have heard them both at GC, and they both sound really good. I like the idea of the 8s, i am thinking they will represent the bass freqs better. So while I am saving, I am still researching. Thanks!
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:Got my KRK Rokit 8's
2012/05/06 12:33:52
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Quazelar konradh.....if you're asking me I'm not sure I understand what you mean by 'isolated'? My DAW is set up in closet and my 8's are on a shelf to my left so I have to turn my chair 90 degrees to mix. If you're not talking to me ignore my dumb ash and I'll go have a Sam Adams...carry on. I'm sure he means having the speakers isolated from the table to prevent resonance.
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chulaivet1966
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Re:Got my KRK Rokit 8's
2012/05/06 12:46:43
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Kalle....I thought that might be it but was unsure. I guess I responded correctly so thanks for confirming for me. Carry on...
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chulaivet1966
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Re:Got my KRK Rokit 8's
2012/05/06 13:02:45
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Tracey Studios.....I also listened to the 6" and I liked the small foot print and the bass response was just fine. But to me, there is a certain presence factor that I prefer in going with the 8". If I was rolling in dough I'd consider upgrading my 25 year old Tascam S1010m's (3" near fields) with those KRK 6"ers. Carry on...
post edited by Quazelar - 2012/05/06 13:52:17
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John T
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Re:Got my KRK Rokit 8's
2012/05/06 13:50:24
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The 8s do have a slightly lower bass roll off than the 6s, though not by very much; it's at 44hz rather than 48hz. The real difference is simply power; everything is a bit tweaked up across the board, so you can get louder, and you arguably get better high volume fidelity. IMO, the main factor in the decision of which to get is probably the size of your room. In a small room, the extra power is probably redundant or even counter productive.
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TraceyStudios
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Re:Got my KRK Rokit 8's
2012/05/06 15:09:43
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John T: What do you consider a small room ? Mine is 12' X 12'. Quaz: Thanks for the input. Decisions, decisions..... :)
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chulaivet1966
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Re:Got my KRK Rokit 8's
2012/05/06 15:19:34
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TraceyStudios.....haha....spend well weed hopper and don't look back. My room size is about 9x11 at a distance of about 4-5 feet. I came in from the larger garage setup as I wanted to get small. I will state, for my purpose and mixing distance the 6" may have been adequate but 'adequate' is not always the best purchasing prudence. I would rather have the 8"s in case I change rooms or increase monitoring distance not to mention (again) the 'presence' factor. Have fun and keep us informed. Carry on...
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konradh
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Re:Got my KRK Rokit 8's
2012/05/06 15:52:02
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Kalle and Quazalar, You are correct and my apologies for being cryptic. Yes, I was curious if your speakers were sitting on stands specifically made to prevent them from vibrating and resonating through the surface. Some people use foam pads. Some use products like ISO-L8R. http://radiomagonline.com...tics_iso-l8r_155_0501/ I was curious since you noticed an increase in bass (which may have nothing to do with this.) Thanks and sorry for the confusion.
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chulaivet1966
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Re:Got my KRK Rokit 8's
2012/05/06 16:00:51
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Kondradh.....I see what you were inquiring about now. I always use some sort of cloth on the shelf for the monitors to sit on. As with my JBL's, I still use cloth about the thickness of a hand towel which has always worked for me. I've not had any resonance problems with this approach. Carry on...
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John T
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Re:Got my KRK Rokit 8's
2012/05/06 16:41:14
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I think 12x12 and under is "small" for the puroses we're talking about. It's a good point Quazelar makes about getting future proof gear, but if you need to save money now, the 6s have plenty of juice for a room that size. My room is about 15x20, and I do fine with them. In fact, if you've got more money to spend, instead of going bigger, it might be worth taking a look at their next range up, which are the VXTs. They are very good.
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Re:Got my KRK Rokit 8's
2012/05/07 00:20:22
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@JWH: Congratulations on your new monitors. I'm sure you'll enjoy mixing with them. I have the KRK-8's myself, and they're great. The biggest problem area always seems to be in the low bass area. Beyond what the KRKs will bring to light, you need to watch out for the really low subs that even the KRKs won't reveal. Sometimes it's amazing to see what lurks from 50Hx down ... ALL the way ... I mean RIGHT Down even below what it's possible to hear. There are so many variables - it probably depends on the type of music you're making, the recording environment, whether you use sampled instruments etc ... Bitflipper eluded to the use of a spectrum analyser (voxengo span), and I couldn't agree more. I've gotten in the habbit of "visually checking" the low end off all my tracks with a spectrum analyser because somethmes there's a lot of "Low End Energy" which you really don't want there, and you'd never know unless you looked with your eyes !. Throw span on your tracks and take a look, and do the same with your "commercial reference CD" - you may be surprised what you see :-) I'm one who has a Subwoofer too. You need to be careful with a subwoofer though. Mine has been set up professionally to give me an essentially flat response down to 20hz. But ... you have to have your ears in exactly the right spot in my room ... otherwise the bass you hear is nothing like what you're putting out. Having the room and gear set up using proper signal generation and measuring gear is very revealing, but not something we can all do. I have IK Multimedia "ARC" too, which also helps somewhat. @TraceyStudios - I had remixed some music after getting my KRKs - made a huge difference. I would rate my room as "Extremely Bad" for trying to set up a home studio. Did I read in another thread that you use a subwoofer ?. Seting up a small room can be extremely difficult (and tedious !). You've got to start with a good set of monitors, and I don't think you'd be dissappointed with the KRKs. Best advice is to listen to them, which I see you've already taken care of. I didn't buy the KRK sub - it was too expensive for me at the time, to cover such a small frequency range. So I got a much cheaper one, it still has all the controls needed to set up properly, and works beautifully now it's all tuned up. First time I fired it up, my wife wondered what the heck was going on ... said it sounded like a 10 Ton truck driving down the hallway :-) Cheers - Cliff
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TraceyStudios
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Re:Got my KRK Rokit 8's
2012/05/07 02:45:24
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Cliffr: Yes I use a subwoofer, the krk10". however it has the ability to bypass, that is why I am wanting the rokit 8's. Would like to hear the mix in good monitors without the sub, a/b with. I have heard great things about both 8's and 6's. There is a deal online, i can get the 8's + stand + iso pad + flash drive for $549. As in another thread, i treated my room with foam which i beleive helped a lot. didn't treat as much for flat response, more to deaden the room a bit. Don't want to start that monster of a discussion again! LOL! So my room is not great, but I have figured out how to mix in it pretty well. I'm no pro, but the mixes get better and better every time. I am using the spectrum analyser which came with Sonar on everything, not only to find low freqs to remove, but to pinpoint things I need to bring out in a mix also, vocals, solos etc, by carving or bumping etc. I went this evening and demo'd both the 8's and 6's, and from what I heard at GC, I really liked the 8's. So Maybe next month I will be the prod owner of the 8's.
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mattplaysguitar
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Re:Got my KRK Rokit 8's
2012/05/07 03:26:18
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I'm personally not a fan of the KRK Rokit 8's at all... I think there are more neutral monitors in the price range. They 'SOUND' great, but I just don't think they are as accurate as some other ones out there.. Almost as though they are trying to be studio monitors and hi fi speakers at the same time. Doesn't mean you cant make a great mix on them though, you just need to learn them well. I find them to typically be rather bass heavy. I thought they sounded a bit smiley shaped in their eq, that is, louder bass and highs, but a little less mids. If my listening experience of them is accurate, then you may very well find the bass to be too high because it is quite high on those monitors! So all this said, just compare them to some reference material and you'll know where you stand. It's a pity they don't have a low shelf adjustment eq on the back of them. I think they need it just a little. Isolation from your desk has been mentioned. Get some Auralex Mopads or something like that if you have not already, and bring them back away from the walls!
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Re:Got my KRK Rokit 8's
2012/05/07 04:48:42
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mattplaysguitar ... I think there are more neutral monitors in the price range. They 'SOUND' great, but I just don't think they are as accurate as some other ones out there.. I totally agree. I found the exact same thing with the KRK's. However, if you know your reference tunes well it shouldnt matter.
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