Setting master bus???

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2012/05/06 08:02:32 (permalink)

Setting master bus???

The main problem is that I dont know how to assign my master bus on to the seperate tracks that have been designed for the A&H zed 14. When I record on track one and try to record over that I just record track one.
 
I know its both a hardware and a software issue but I dont know where to start looking. All I want to do is record two seperate guitar, a vocal, and maybe a base. As seperat tracks. If anyone knows even where to look online for detailed schooling for even just the set up of the zed to sonar, let me know. Thanks.
 
Just so Im understood. Ive put some posts out there and then hit this problem. I got great response from the past posts, excuse me - threads, and Ive been quite pleased. The effort on everyones part is outstanding. Thanks, but when I hit this problem I had to step away because it was driving me nuts. Sorry. Just had to vent.

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    Guitarhacker
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    Re:Setting master bus??? 2012/05/06 08:27:38 (permalink)
    On the DAW, you can record two tracks at one time, each with a different instrument or voice. 

    If using a mixer, that mixer must be capable of outputting each track distinct from the next. OK..looking at the hardware list in your signature, it's a USB mixer. 

    So you should be able to assign the outputs on the A&H independently to two different inputs in the software. That's all that you should need to do. This would be done in the track setup. 

    This from the A&H page: 

    Send options:
    1) Main Mix Left + Right (Post-fade)
    2) Main Mix Left + Right (Pre-Fade)
    3) Auxes 1-2
    4) Auxes 3-4

    Return options:
    1) To Stereo 3 channel

    All you need to do is assign the 2 different mono tracks to send option 1&2 and then select those options respectively, in the track input field. 



    Drag the bottom of the track in console view down to make the track window larger. (I don't have 8.5 so it might be a bit different)  Each track inspector area will have the input and output assignments for that track. The A&H outputs should be visible there. Select the output on the A&H for the input to the track. 

    You probably don't need to send the A&H to a master, but to a track to start with.  Then........ once you get the inputs set up properly for both tracks, the track output is to the master by default, unless you add or insert a sub-master for some reason, such as treating a group of tracks that are similar (back ground vocal tracks) with the same FX processing. 


    As a side note of encouragement: I have a Focusrite Saffire that has a software mixing panel which controls what goes where and at what levels. It took me quite some time to get all that stuff figured out to even get sound in one end and out the other. I was pulling my hair out trying to get it figured out when.....waaaaa laaaaa, I got it figured out.  


    post edited by Guitarhacker - 2012/05/06 08:34:50

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    Damien Thorn
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    Re:Setting master bus??? 2012/05/06 09:14:28 (permalink)
    Thanks for the detail. Where are you getting the A&H page? Ive searched up and down for anything. Im really suprized that A&H along with sonar doesnt have a step by step because when you read and get responses from people, few have the same set up as, metaphoricly, you have. So you go to ask for help and being new I find that people are going out of there way to do what Im trying to do and I cant figure out. What I ended up doing is steping back cause I felt like a burden. I just dont know terms. I dont know why I should be looking at something that makes sence...right now.

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    Re:Setting master bus??? 2012/05/06 11:38:54 (permalink)
    Herb, I think the Master he's referring to is on the A&H, not in SONAR.
     
    Damien, what options are you getting when you click a track's Input (I) dropdown? In most cases, you should have Left, Right and Stereo, or 1, 2 or 1 & 2.
    You may also have the input of the A&H being sent back to the output, thus recording everything you hear on the next track. There's probaly a button on the Zed that will control what is fed back to the output.

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    Re:Setting master bus??? 2012/05/06 13:25:08 (permalink)

    Greg 
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