When Will Fast Bouncing/Bouncing To Clip Rendering Time Based Effects Be Fixed?

When will Fast Bouncing/Bouncing To Clip rendering time based/synced effects be fixed? I asked that question of Sonar Support over a week ago and have still received nothing but the automated "will reply to you as soon as possible" email.

This is a big bust to me. If you allow VSTs clip based effects, they need to render properly when bounced. A basic function that should not be left broken for any length of time. Big "FAIL" so far on Cakewalk's part.

Thought I'd ask here since Cakewalk support no longer seems to answer their support email.

I've been waiting for a fix to a recording problem that was first identified in 8.5 producer. AFAIK it affects me and two or three other studios. We all have complained repeatedly, but the problem is still there, even after five major releases. I asked about this process, and this is what I've been told.
 
The only problems that get fixed in this forum are the ones for which the root cause is operator error, skill level; that sort of thing. Otherwise the process has to start with the user authoring a bug report. If you author a bug report, it goes to development for review. Someone at a higher paygrade then decides the scope of the next release. If the problem in question does not affect a wide audience (in your case I'm counting 2 so far), there is a low probability of it being included. If you only mention it in this forum, it has about zero probability of inclusion. On the other hand, if the problem affects almost everybody, they might include it in a hot fix. You'll have an easier time of it if you can identify a larger number of affected users.
 
 

Mee Toooo!

Now I count three. Dave suggested real time bounce, and that has worked in my studio several times. Someone else may have another workaround for you to try. If that isn't good enough for you, you're just going to have to put the keytar down for a minute and author a bug report. If all three of you sent one in, then Cakewalk will know the problem affects three people and can extrapolate from there. My point here is, if you insist on waiting for a program fix, you could be waiting for a few months or even longer. If you want collaborative help, you have to be willing try potential solutions that aren't perfect. Just posting rants in here is typically not very productive.

bitflipper


Fast bounce problems are generally not SONAR bugs. They are due to limitations within specific plugins, and every one of them that I've encountered has been a third-party product. Sometimes it's sloppy coding, but more often it's due to some limitation inherent in the way the plugins work.

I'd love to be able to fast-freeze Omnisphere tracks, but it's a crapshoot as to whether they will render correctly so I just freeze/bounce in real time. I can always pull up the forum, watch Netflix or play solitaire while I'm waiting. 

Annoying as that may be, what I would not do is go online and publicly demand that Cakewalk fix the problem, and to loudly announce my expert diagnosis as a "big FAIL". Even if I was 90% sure that was true, I'd still refrain because if it turned out I was wrong, then I'd look like an ignoramus.

Why would I do what you would do? You just publicly went online, basically told me I was wrong, and said I look like an ignoramus for it. That's what I would not do. Because if you're wrong, you might look like an ignoramus.
 
Thanks for your expert advice and knowledge.

Double post.

From the forum agreement:

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Regardless, I'm sure the entire development staff has now dropped everything and is working exclusively on a solution for you.

peregrine


From the forum agreement:

A Peer to Peer Based Forum
The Cakewalk Forums are a web-based community provided by Cakewalk to encourage interaction between owners of Cakewalk products.
In this peer-to-peer environment, forum users are encouraged to answer questions, share experiences and give advice to their fellow users. While Cakewalk employees may occasionally post information, they are not expected to provide technical support or other official replies in the forum. Note - this does not reflect a change in policy. Cakewalk forums and newsgroups have always been P2P based.

Regardless, I'm sure the entire development staff has now dropped everything and is working exclusively on a solution for you.

Again, my gratitude to you, sir, for re-posting the obvious.

Java - you still don't get it. If you want to know how long it will take to get a fix, the answer is anywhere from months to years after you turn in a bug report. Emails to tech support and forum threads don't count. You are responsible for starting the development process. Once you've done that, you just have to wait for a fix to appear. You can make any demands you want here,  kind of like you do in the Audioease forum, and it won't make a bit of difference. Cakewalk staff simply won't tell you anything. You can be pretty sure they're under orders not to. Capice?

This afternoon I received feedback from my submission of this as a bug lodged on19th April:  "Submitted to Development".
So I guess a fix will be incorporated in the next release/update.

Just heard today from tech support email that there Is an update in the works to address this issue. Also, I have discovered that Antares Auto tune Will fastbounce/bounce to clip IF you DO NOT have "Play Effects Tails After Stopping" checked. If it is checked, Antares will jack your pitch up (Graphical Mode). Un-checked seemed to fix this plug-in. Melodyne not so... but like I stated above an update IS in the works. I yield my time to a friendly speaker.