fali
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Transferring a track to a different computer that has sonar as well.
I tried to do a forum search but nothing pulled up. I have a laptop with sonar X1 producer and I also have a computer with sonar x1 producer. I completed a track on my laptop and want to keep it on my computer as well. So I copied the track on a USB storage device and transferred it to my comp. I open it on my computer with sonar and everything except the samples sets up. It says "multisample not found". This means I would have to manually load every sample back into each track. Everything else is in place though like the effects, track layout, levels, number of tracks, ect, but I have to load the samples back like bassline, vocals, voices, into the tacks which will be a huge pain and time consuming. The only thing that did transfer were the instruments/voices i used from PSYN II, Square I, TTS-1, ect. Is there anyway around this? Did i do something wrong? Any advice would be appreciated. I believe the problem has to do with locating the files since its saved on a different location.
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daryl1968
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Re:Transferring a track to a different computer that has sonar as well.
2012/05/06 22:04:49
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what type of project did you save it as? You need to save it as a CWB - (Cakewalk bundle) file
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Re:Transferring a track to a different computer that has sonar as well.
2012/05/06 22:22:52
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listen to daryl,hes right,as usual,
if you need to,go into preferences(hit the P key )
under AUDIO data select cakewalk bundle file to save your projects.
also keep in mind if you saved your project and were using third party vsts
or soft synths(ez drummer for instances)
you will get an error apon opening the project reminding you ez drummer is missing(unless you have ez drummer on that computer as well.
in this case its best to bounce down your tracks to an audio wave,work on them,then when you import it back to your original you can use the synth,vst tracks again.
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Re:Transferring a track to a different computer that has sonar as well.
2012/05/06 22:28:39
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Also, of course, the samples need to be on both computers. If you save audio files it should include the samples/clips etc. under audio.
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fali
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Re:Transferring a track to a different computer that has sonar as well.
2012/05/06 22:28:58
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Ok. I right-clicked on the track and chose properties and it says "cwp". I guess thats the problem them. Thanks for the info. Is there anyway to change it or i have to resave it as cwb?
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fali
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Re:Transferring a track to a different computer that has sonar as well.
2012/05/06 22:35:07
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Also, of course, the samples need to be on both computers. If you save audio files it should include the samples/clips etc. under audio.
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Yea i did saved everything. I made sure everything transferred over. Its just that i have to manually put in the samples in each track again. Which is not impossible, but something I hope I don't have to do.
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daryl1968
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Re:Transferring a track to a different computer that has sonar as well.
2012/05/06 22:37:50
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fali
Ok. I right-clicked on the track and chose properties and it says "cwp". I guess thats the problem them. Thanks for the info. Is there anyway to change it or i have to resave it as cwb?
Sorry fali, you'll have to do it again as a bundle file.
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Re:Transferring a track to a different computer that has sonar as well.
2012/05/06 22:39:37
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chuckebaby
listen to daryl,hes right,as usual,
tell that to the current Mrs Daryl1968
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fali
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Re:Transferring a track to a different computer that has sonar as well.
2012/05/06 22:57:44
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No luck. I opened the track on my laptop, clicked on "save as" and saved it as cakewalk bundle. I reopened the new saved file on my laptop and it played, but not on my computer. Its still saying "multisample not found". The samples are saved as "wav". Would that be the problem? I'll keep trying experimenting with the cwb though. I could've over looked something.
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Re:Transferring a track to a different computer that has sonar as well.
2012/05/06 23:02:17
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I could be wrong but I thought the Multisample missing thing was related to Dimension Pro ?
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fali
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Re:Transferring a track to a different computer that has sonar as well.
2012/05/06 23:13:42
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No, not dimension pro. I recorded some samples and saved it as a "wav". I used "dropzone" from "insert syth" to play my samples in my tracks. So I thought if i saved everything from cakewalk projects and load them in my comp, the sonar x1 from my comp would automatically load everything as i had it on my laptop. It did but it didn't load up the samples. I thank you all for all your help. Is there anything else that I possibly did wrong or overlooked?
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fali
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Re:Transferring a track to a different computer that has sonar as well.
2012/05/06 23:26:01
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I was wondering. In my laptop the samples were stored in my hard drive location "c". But in my computer its in my secondary location "e". It would say "multisample not found C:\Cakewalk projects\". Could that be the problem, because in my comp sonar is saved in hard drive "E:\cakewalk projects".
Thanks.
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Re:Transferring a track to a different computer that has sonar as well.
2012/05/07 07:49:48
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fali
I was wondering. In my laptop the samples were stored in my hard drive location "c". But in my computer its in my secondary location "e". It would say "multisample not found C:\Cakewalk projects\". Could that be the problem, because in my comp sonar is saved in hard drive "E:\cakewalk projects".
Thanks.
Yes, that would be a reason. I had the same problem when I moved form my laptop to my custom DAW. On the laptop everything was in C. Not so on the custom DAW. I had to tell it in every single project where the sample libraries were now located. However..... if all the tracks are audio, and you have bounced the synths to audio in the first machine, you can simply ignore that "multisamples" notice. Obviously, while you have bounced to audio, you have not removed the synth, and cake is still trying to load the synth with samples in case you need it and it gives you that message since it can no longer find the library. On new projects this will not be in issue, and if you take the time to tell it where to find the samples on this project, that will be solved. You will need to take the time to do this for every imported project from the old machine..... I don;t know any short cuts on this. But..... if you need to work on something in the new machine, then it is worth the time..... no?
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fali
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Re:Transferring a track to a different computer that has sonar as well.
2012/05/07 11:54:36
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fali
I was wondering. In my laptop the samples were stored in my hard drive location "c". But in my computer its in my secondary location "e". It would say "multisample not found C:\Cakewalk projects\". Could that be the problem, because in my comp sonar is saved in hard drive "E:\cakewalk projects".
Thanks.
Yes, that would be a reason.
I had the same problem when I moved form my laptop to my custom DAW. On the laptop everything was in C. Not so on the custom DAW. I had to tell it in every single project where the sample libraries were now located.
However..... if all the tracks are audio, and you have bounced the synths to audio in the first machine, you can simply ignore that "multisamples" notice. Obviously, while you have bounced to audio, you have not removed the synth, and cake is still trying to load the synth with samples in case you need it and it gives you that message since it can no longer find the library.
On new projects this will not be in issue, and if you take the time to tell it where to find the samples on this project, that will be solved. You will need to take the time to do this for every imported project from the old machine..... I don;t know any short cuts on this. But..... if you need to work on something in the new machine, then it is worth the time..... no?
This could be a dumb question, but I would have to manually assign all the samples into each track again? Or is there another way to notify the new computer where the sample locations are? Worste case scenario I will have to manually assign the samples again, but I find it annoying theres no other easier alternatives.
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Re:Transferring a track to a different computer that has sonar as well.
2012/05/07 14:37:52
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You could also freeze the tracks containing Dropzone before you save & create the .cwb bundle file. Once frozen the audio tracks will then be included in your audio files folder.
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Re:Transferring a track to a different computer that has sonar as well.
2012/05/07 14:56:16
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Yea, freeze would be the best option. Freeze the synth track (which converts it to audio), copy and paste the audio to another audio track (Dropzone 1 Audio or something easy for you to remember), save audio w/ project, and voiá, it should get saved and pop up on the other computer.
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fali
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Re:Transferring a track to a different computer that has sonar as well.
2012/05/08 00:28:50
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Good news is, it does work. The bad news is it can't be revised on.The timing is off too. Theres a delay issue with dropzone so I would have to change the start time. But that doesn't transfer over to the new comp. Also if I unfreeze the synth, I;'m right back at square 1 with missing samples. The cakewalk bundle is worse actually cause i don't even see the samples. When I just copy from my laptop and paste to my comp from a USB storage device, at least the samples transfer over. It could be I'm doing something wrong. The only resort I see I can try is connect the 2 comps together and do a "PC to PC transfer of files". What you guys think. Would that work? Thanks for everyones input!
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Re:Transferring a track to a different computer that has sonar as well.
2012/05/08 05:34:31
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Another way (how I do it) is to set per project audio folders in Preferences. This puts the audio folder inside the project folder so all you have to do is copy the project folder over to the other computer.
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fali
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Re:Transferring a track to a different computer that has sonar as well.
2012/05/08 17:34:23
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Another way (how I do it) is to set per project audio folders in Preferences. This puts the audio folder inside the project folder so all you have to do is copy the project folder over to the other computer.
I'll try that when I go home. I know when I copy and paste, everything does go to the new computer, its just that the samples don't load into the track synths like dropzone or session drummer III. Thanks
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soens
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Re:Transferring a track to a different computer that has sonar as well.
2012/05/08 17:56:46
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As long as you have the same instruments/samples installed on each computer...and...they are installed to the same directory trees they should load in. The file locations are saved in the project file so if samples are located in a different folder on each computer the project won't find them. It's best to have both computers set up the same. I have a complete set of duplicate projects on both systems which reduces these issues. Trying to load a 32 bit project in 64 bit Sonar can require reloading plugins when there's no bridge for a 32 bit plugin.
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fali
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Re:Transferring a track to a different computer that has sonar as well.
2012/05/09 22:31:39
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As long as you have the same instruments/samples installed on each computer...and...they are installed to the same directory trees they should load in. The file locations are saved in the project file so if samples are located in a different folder on each computer the project won't find them. It's best to have both computers set up the same.
I have a complete set of duplicate projects on both systems which reduces these issues.
Trying to load a 32 bit project in 64 bit Sonar can require reloading plugins when there's no bridge for a 32 bit plugin.
Yeah thanks. i got it resolved. That was the issue. I had the files stored in my "E/" drive(which is the second drive installed in my comp), but my laptop originally stored the files in the "C/" hard drive. After storing the files this time in my "C/" drive in my comp, everything is opening up perfectly. However the cakewalk bundle was suppose to work too but I nevered verified because I'm getting an error message when I'm saving as a "cwb". I would consider changing the preference but I don't want to cause more problems. So for now I'm %100 satisfied with the results. Thanks for everyone's input!!! :)
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