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Undocumented Features: what have you discovered?
Undocumented Feature: FOLDER Templates I use track templates. Until watching the recent webisode I did not know the Track template function now includes FOLDER TEMPLATEs. Did I miss this in the docs and tutorials? In 8.5.3 only ONE track is saved with the template. The folder and the busses, effects, and EQ are also saved. I had not read, nor found in any X1 material, that ALL tracks in a folder would be included in a "Track" template, So, I have not attempted to combine such. Brandon demonstrated "stacking synths." Which is a use of the "Folder" template feature. He created a folder, added three simple instrument tracks, routed the tracks to a bus, loaded presets into each synth and saved as a "track" template. When dragging from the browser the folder, 3 tracks, synths, settings, and bus were all created. This is one of those bits that had been requested since the addition of the track template function. What other features have you discovered that are not documented? =================================== Bugs, comments & suggestions: We expect this application to not always perform as described. This is by design. There are no bugs in our software, only undefined behaviors, and undocumented results. Enjoy the process of discovery. Please inform us of any unique actions you have encountered that we may include them in the list of known features. ===============================
post edited by jm24 - 2012/05/10 15:09:19
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Re:Undocumented Features: wht have you discovered?
2012/05/10 13:39:07
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Double clicking the PC header crashes Sonar. Is that the sort of undocumented feature you meant? 
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Re:Undocumented Features: wht have you discovered?
2012/05/10 13:50:50
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The only undocumented thing I am aware of it the clicking on the little screw in the PC buss compressor it will turn the VU meter to blue.
That to me is very unimportant but this thread is a great one so think of this as a bump.
One sort of feature is that now we don't have to goto CV and TV keybindings to bind a key to reset the clip indicators. Its done now in one place.
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Re:Undocumented Features: wht have you discovered?
2012/05/10 14:20:10
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when you go to delete tracks, it now shows the number of tracks selected in the prompt to delete.
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Re:Undocumented Features: wht have you discovered?
2012/05/10 14:30:58
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I don't know if this is documented or not... I was for sure slow to this party. I thought there were only 3 states or views for the track inspector. Clip, Track and ProCh. But I realized that clicking on an selected view (tab), deselects all 3 of those states and the track inspector reverts back to the full channel strip. So finding there were actually 4 states was a relief. I had been grumbling under my breath wondering why I couldn't see the full strip anymore like in previous versions. I can almost sense the shaking of heads for this admission. :)
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Re:Undocumented Features: wht have you discovered?
2012/05/10 14:32:48
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The only undocumented thing I am aware of it the clicking on the little screw in the PC buss compressor it will turn the VU meter to blue. @John, Mine doesn't do that...
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Re:Undocumented Features: wht have you discovered?
2012/05/10 14:51:23
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musicroom
The only undocumented thing I am aware of it the clicking on the little screw in the PC buss compressor it will turn the VU meter to blue.
@John, Mine doesn't do that...
Simple . . . turn the adjustment screw at bottom of compressor meter then click on the meter screen and it lights up to a pretty blue color. The above is from a post from Will in another thread. The reason it didn't work for you is I forgot the turning part and the click on the meter part. Other than those two things I had it right. LOL 
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Re:Undocumented Features: wht have you discovered?
2012/05/10 15:14:59
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if you press CTRL+SHIFT+ALT while launching Sonar X1 it will display a pic of Noel, Brandon, Seth and the CW gang.
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Re:Undocumented Features: wht have you discovered?
2012/05/10 15:20:27
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John
@John, Mine doesn't do that...
Simple . . . turn the adjustment screw at bottom of compressor meter then click on the meter screen and it lights up to a pretty blue color.
The above is from a post from Will in another thread.
The reason it didn't work for you is I forgot the turning part and the click on the meter part. Other than those two things I had it right. LOL
My screw driver just scratched my monitor and it still didn't work. 
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Re:Undocumented Features: wht have you discovered?
2012/05/10 15:36:00
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Re:Undocumented Features: wht have you discovered?
2012/05/10 15:51:06
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Oh - Joy of Joys It works you just have to pull the mouse down far on the screw to turn it (you didn't say that) and then a pretty blue light shines. Thank you, I was beginning to think the bakers didn't want us to see that meter. P.S. Project doesn't save with it on though 
post edited by Wave - 2012/05/10 16:08:00
Cheers, Wave
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Re:Undocumented Features: wht have you discovered?
2012/05/10 16:04:14
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Here's one which I have never seen documented.
If you have a midi track where some of the notes start off in the previous measure, say for an acoustic guitar strum.
now, if you want to insert some measures and you line up to the measure bar, Sonar will rightly split your strum so the old last bar just contains the small snippets of leading transients and the rest of the note will be at the start of your new bar.
With me so far?
Normally, You'd have to go into the prv and stretch out the transients to fill out the measure
But if you highlight them and double click, Sonar will 'remember' where they should be and draw them in for you.
I think that's a wicked feature
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Re:Undocumented Features: what have you discovered?
2012/05/10 16:16:50
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Kind of like a double click copy to clip board paste thing of a mabobber. 
Cheers, Wave
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Re:Undocumented Features: wht have you discovered?
2012/05/10 16:25:35
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Wave
Oh - Joy of Joys
It works you just have to pull the mouse down far on the screw to turn it (you didn't say that) and then a pretty blue light shines.
Thank you,
I was beginning to think the bakers didn't want us to see that meter.
P.S. Project doesn't save with it on though
@John too. It did work. For me I had to click on the screw and drag up. That is a nice shade of blue and you're right, that setting is not saved with the project. Something to doodle with while telling the client your putting the compressor in ultra vintage blue mode.
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Re:Undocumented Features: wht have you discovered?
2012/05/10 16:30:37
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Wave
Oh - Joy of Joys
It works you just have to pull the mouse down far on the screw to turn it (you didn't say that) and then a pretty blue light shines.
Thank you,
I was beginning to think the bakers didn't want us to see that meter.
P.S. Project doesn't save with it on though
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Re:Undocumented Features: wht have you discovered?
2012/05/10 16:43:43
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Bristol_Jonesey
Here's one which I have never seen documented.
If you have a midi track where some of the notes start off in the previous measure, say for an acoustic guitar strum.
now, if you want to insert some measures and you line up to the measure bar, Sonar will rightly split your strum so the old last bar just contains the small snippets of leading transients and the rest of the note will be at the start of your new bar.
With me so far?
Normally, You'd have to go into the prv and stretch out the transients to fill out the measure
But if you highlight them and double click, Sonar will 'remember' where they should be and draw them in for you.
I think that's a wicked feature
That is a great feature I stumbled on also. The best part of this for me...If you are scoring to picture and your client gives you an updated version and you are moving things around to match, This feature is a huuuuge time saver. And midi clips act similar to audio clips where you split a clip, move part of the clip, you can stretch the midi clips to fill the blank area. I Can't tell you how many hours this has saved me. Sonar has a bunch of little features like this that makes scoring to picture way better than say pro tools.
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Re:Undocumented Features: wht have you discovered?
2012/05/10 16:50:30
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John
The only undocumented thing I am aware of it the clicking on the little screw in the PC buss compressor it will turn the VU meter to blue.
That to me is very unimportant but this thread is a great one so think of this as a bump.
One sort of feature is that now we don't have to goto CV and TV keybindings to bind a key to reset the clip indicators. Its done now in one place.
Hi John, can you point out how to reset clip indicators - I am not seeing it and I miss it - have to do each one individually now. Cheers Grif
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Re:Undocumented Features: wht have you discovered?
2012/05/10 17:26:43
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Crif, This was a request from me some time ago and CW included it is Sonar awhile ago. In X1 they improved it so instead having to key-bind it in two place in the key-bindings it only takes the one Key-bind to work in both CV and TV. To key-bind goto Preferences Keyboard shortcuts and find Reset all clips and peak indicators. I use y for this function. Sorry for the long build up to the answer. I just like talking about it.LOL BTW X1 imported this from Sonar 8.5 when I installed X1 for the first time. What is to me really cool is that in 8.5 one had to set this up in key-bindings for the CV and the TV separately for it to apply to both. X1 was smart enough to import it correctly and it work perfectly. Edit to add; CW has done this right. One still can use the mouse to click on a clip indicator and only effect just one. By having the key-binding to reset all it gives us options. Other DAWs may have a reset but its an either or sort of thing.
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Re:Undocumented Features: wht have you discovered?
2012/05/10 17:49:16
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Thanks John, I will do the binding - am I dreaming or didn't 7(?) have a master clip light that would appear on the status bar if any one channel clipped? Clicking it would clear the indicators. (If I dreamed it it is a great idea and should be suggested. If I didn't dream it can we have it back please? Cheers Grif John
Crif,
This was a request from me some time ago and CW included it is Sonar awhile ago. In X1 they improved it so instead having to key-bind it in two place in the key-bindings it only takes the one Key-bind to work in both CV and TV. To key-bind goto Preferences Keyboard shortcuts and find Reset all clips and peak indicators. I use y for this function. Sorry for the long build up to the answer. I just like talking about it.LOL
BTW X1 imported this from Sonar 8.5 when I installed X1 for the first time. What is to me really cool is that in 8.5 one had to set this up in key-bindings for the CV and the TV separately for it to apply to both. X1 was smart enough to import it correctly and it work perfectly.
Edit to add;
CW has done this right. One still can use the mouse to click on a clip indicator and only effect just one. By having the key-binding to reset all it gives us options. Other DAWs may have a reset but its an either or sort of thing.
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Re:Undocumented Features: wht have you discovered?
2012/05/10 17:54:36
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Another undocumented feature or it may in fact be documented but I haven't seen it. One can export a single MIDI track as a MIDI file simply by dragging it to the desktop or to a folder of one's choice. This is not an X1 feature because its been around for a long time.
Of course the normal way to create a MIDI file is to use the file menu and save it as a MIDI file. Also X1 and all past Sonars have the ability to load a standard MIDI file via the open dialog. No need to create a new project to do that. For X1 its a native format.
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Re:Undocumented Features: wht have you discovered?
2012/05/10 18:06:23
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Just converted to X1 and don't miss hovering mouse over all those little icons at top of window to remember their function as in previous versions!
slightly off topic
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Re:Undocumented Features: wht have you discovered?
2012/05/10 18:18:35
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Just converted to X1 and don't miss hovering mouse over all those little icons at top of window to remember their function as in previous versions!
slightly off topic
No its not off topic. It is a huge feature. And thank you for reminding us about it.
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Re:Undocumented Features: wht have you discovered?
2012/05/10 19:23:11
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musicroom
I don't know if this is documented or not... I was for sure slow to this party. I thought there were only 3 states or views for the track inspector. Clip, Track and ProCh. But I realized that clicking on an selected view (tab), deselects all 3 of those states and the track inspector reverts back to the full channel strip. So finding there were actually 4 states was a relief. I had been grumbling under my breath wondering why I couldn't see the full strip anymore like in previous versions. I can almost sense the shaking of heads for this admission. :)
Don't feel bad. Although this seems obvious once you know the trick, it took me a while before I figured it out as well.
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Re:Undocumented Features: wht have you discovered?
2012/05/10 20:16:32
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Another feature is that patching X1 will create a backup folder where the X1 program is saved to before it is patched. This makes rolling back to a previous version easy. To revert back all one has to do is drag the proper backed upped version to the X1 program folder.
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Re:Undocumented Features: wht have you discovered?
2012/05/10 20:45:10
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musicroom
I don't know if this is documented or not... I was for sure slow to this party. I thought there were only 3 states or views for the track inspector. Clip, Track and ProCh. But I realized that clicking on an selected view (tab), deselects all 3 of those states and the track inspector reverts back to the full channel strip. So finding there were actually 4 states was a relief. I had been grumbling under my breath wondering why I couldn't see the full strip anymore like in previous versions. I can almost sense the shaking of heads for this admission. :)
Don't feel bad. Although this seems obvious once you know the trick, it took me a while before I figured it out as well.
Thanks dmbaer... It does seem obvious now. :)
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