Maarkr
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Best way to manage band practice recordings
I record our band practices as one take and later bring the files into X1. I have a template with tracks for guitar, bass, synth, voc, drums, etc. with fx setup to minimize editing. Now I'd like suggestions on how to edit the clips/tracks. Currently I loop a song area, tweak some fx, and bounce it to a wav file. I do this for maybe 5 songs or so each practice... doesn't take long to do it that way. Now, I'd like to add some midi tracks of my own to complement the practice song. Since the clips are all imported at a std 120bpm, if I've done any main track editing, it messes it up if I try to change the bpm. I'm thinking the easiest way is to add a midi track at a certain bpm to match the main tracks, but I don't know if that is possible. I thought about slicing up each song, setting the song up with the proper bpm, then adding a midi track, but that's a pain to slice and setup many different songs in the track... but maybe that's the best way to do it? I guess I could also bring in the bounced file in a new project and setup the bpm and add a midi track, but that's extra work as well. So can i add midi tracks at a different bpm from the main tracks/clips? Or does anyone else record their band and manage/edit the individual songs? What process do you use if you add midi?
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Stone House Studios
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Re:Best way to manage band practice recordings
2012/05/26 14:35:44
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I record our band practices as one take and later bring the files into X1. How are you doing this - I mean, tape, ADAT, etc.? I would record the songs as separate takes if I were thinking about post production. Playing to a click track will help establish timing, and then groove quantize the midi performance to your recording. Maybe! Brian
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Jeff Evans
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Re:Best way to manage band practice recordings
2012/05/26 18:53:05
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Here is some interesting advice. Many and I mean many years ago with my very first band (1978 to be precise) I used to record our band rehearsals too. But a good idea is to use two microphones and nothing else. (Even one mono mic works well in this situation) Just put them up in the room and record everything you hear. Onto a one stereo track only. All you have to do is make sure the loudest parts are not clipping. Condenser mikes are better for this type of thing too. The reason for this is that it will tell you more about the way the band is playing than anything else. Especially if people are playing in balance with each other. And it is very exposed and naked if you like in what you hear. Average playing and out of balance playing just sounds bad! We used to rehearse a tune for an hour or so and when we were ready we would roll the stereo recording. After it was all over we had 4 or 5 tunes to listen to over a cup of tea etc. We improved very rapidly doing it this way. There is nothing like it. It forces you to adjust the levels of various band members (guitarists manily being way too loud!) and get the PA nicely tuned in and set level wise too. You don't notice out of balance playing when you are doing it at the time but you sure do when you play it back! When you are really ready then you can start doing multitrack sessions etc and make a great studio type recording for demos etc. You will know when its time because when you are playing nice and in balance the stereo recording actually sounds great!
post edited by Jeff Evans - 2012/05/26 19:09:06
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Maarkr
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Re:Best way to manage band practice recordings
2012/05/26 20:09:08
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i really don't want to do much with it after recording... we all play direct into a Zoom R16, which we use for mixing and recording to two active mons out... that way we can pretty much balance the sound as we play. This is why I've been recording the whole thing in one take... I really don't have to mess with the levels much in the recording. I'd like to add midi tracks to some of the songs and try some different synth sounds and see how that works with the mix, tho.
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Re:Best way to manage band practice recordings
2012/05/27 08:18:22
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Maarkr i really don't want to do much with it after recording... we all play direct into a Zoom R16, which we use for mixing and recording to two active mons out... that way we can pretty much balance the sound as we play. This is why I've been recording the whole thing in one take... I really don't have to mess with the levels much in the recording. I'd like to add midi tracks to some of the songs and try some different synth sounds and see how that works with the mix, tho. Unless you specifically need the tempo for loops or tempo based effects, then you can just "play along" with any midi instrument/controller and your midi performance will be recorded as performed. You won't be able to tighten it up with things like quantize or snap to grid editing, but you will be able to switch out patches and instruments without having to re-record. Does that help? Brian
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