Help Finding/Installing Dimension Pro 1.5

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2012/05/27 12:26:41 (permalink)

Help Finding/Installing Dimension Pro 1.5

Need help with what is hopefully an easy problem. I'm using Sonar X1 Expanded 64 bit version which was installed as a download upgrade over existing X1 Producer. Don't think I ever have installed Dimension Pro on this computer, and would now like to do so. Somehow I thought that this was part of the install material for X1 Producer, but if I fire up the (old X1 Producer) setup.exe and try an 'Advanced' install, I do not see Dim Pro as a component anywhere. I know I am supposed to have access to this program (account at Cakewalk shows valid serial number and reg. code for v1.5). Anyway, can't figure out how to find/install Dimension Pro. Before wasting any more time, I was hoping someone on the forum could point me in the right direction. Thanks.
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    Beepster
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    Re:Help Finding/Installing Dimension Pro 1.5 2012/05/27 15:29:16 (permalink)
    I don't know how the download install would work but Dimension Pro was on a completely different disc in my boxed suite and IIRC even had its own serial number/registration process. Had to Run As Administrator too because otherwise it told me the serial number had already been registered (when it had not).
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    Beepster
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    Re:Help Finding/Installing Dimension Pro 1.5 2012/05/27 15:31:06 (permalink)
    hmm... maybe you didn't "Extract All Files" from the download and that's why you can't see the DP setup.exe. Perhaps?
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    Re:Help Finding/Installing Dimension Pro 1.5 2012/05/27 15:50:08 (permalink)
    It's a separate download. If you don't have it, look in 'My Account' on the Cakewalk store. You can download it again from there, also access your serial number.

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    Re:Help Finding/Installing Dimension Pro 1.5 2012/05/27 15:52:27 (permalink)
    Sorry, just reread your post - I realise now you can see Dim Pro 1.5 serial and activation in your account. You should also see a download link - right-most column.

    Chris
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    Re:Help Finding/Installing Dimension Pro 1.5 2012/05/27 17:02:57 (permalink)
    Luteman, yeah I can see 1.5 in my account list, but there is NO download link, so I assumed it was supposed to be in the X1 producer download, but I'll be darned if I can see it.
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    Re:Help Finding/Installing Dimension Pro 1.5 2012/05/27 17:11:50 (permalink)
    There have been some issues with download links so just send CW an email or better yet call them (have your serial number/registration info handy) through the main support channels (no need to bother the tech guys) and they'll send you a fresh link. Sadly they are not open today and I think tomorrow is a US holiday so you may not get a hold of anyone until tuesday. They'll fix ya up.
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    Re:Help Finding/Installing Dimension Pro 1.5 2012/05/27 17:14:42 (permalink)
    Hi man, sorry about that - gave you duff information.
    If you click on the SONAR X1 Producer download link in My Account, you will see a number of download files - one of them is 04_Dimension_Pro_1_5_Setup.exe. That's what you want. There's also a download link for the expansion packs.

    If they aren't there, than as Beepster says, you need to contact CW to get alternative links.

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    Re:Help Finding/Installing Dimension Pro 1.5 2012/05/27 17:29:52 (permalink)
    Ahhh, I see them, thanks much!! (I didn't try the X1 Producer link, 'cause I still had the install files on my computer. Guess I never even downloaded Dim Pro).
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    Re:Help Finding/Installing Dimension Pro 1.5 2012/05/27 17:40:45 (permalink)
    Luteman to the rescue! HOORAY!! Have fun, wruess!
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    Re:Help Finding/Installing Dimension Pro 1.5 2012/05/27 17:49:04 (permalink)
    Beepster


    Luteman to the rescue! HOORAY!! Have fun, wruess!

    Happy to help. Have fun indeed. Make music! 

    Chris
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    Re:Help Finding/Installing Dimension Pro 1.5 2012/05/27 17:54:10 (permalink)
    Hey, Luteman... what's the LP brand in your avatar? I don't recognize the headstock (might just be the image tripping me up but it doesn't look like an Epi).
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    Re:Help Finding/Installing Dimension Pro 1.5 2012/05/27 18:44:01 (permalink)
    Beepster


    Hey, Luteman... what's the LP brand in your avatar? I don't recognize the headstock (might just be the image tripping me up but it doesn't look like an Epi).
    Hi Beeps!

    Actually it is an Epi. It's made in Korea (Unsung factory). I bought it a couple of years ago for £100, in a fairly beat-up condition. I intended to restore it and sell it on, but when I played it I was hooked so had to keep it!

    I've replaced the stock pups with ToneRider ones - Alnico II Classic at the neck and Alnico IV Classic at the bridge. I've wired it with the so-called 'Jimmy Page' mods, with push-pull pots all round. The volume controls coil-split their respective pickups, the bridge tone puts them out of phase and the neck tone wires them in series.

    Coil-split gives a single-coil type of sound (both pups together sound very Tele-like.) Out of phase is thin and trebly and series connection gives a volume boost and generally 'ballsier' sound. Out of phase and series together is insane - difficult to describe, almost overdriven even with clean amp settings.


    Altogether a wide range of great tones - it will certainly do me until I can afford a Gibby . . .




    Chris
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    Beepster
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    Re:Help Finding/Installing Dimension Pro 1.5 2012/05/28 23:04:08 (permalink)
    Sorry for the late response Luteman. I wanted to reply yesterday but after I was done messing around with my monitors I was in far too much pain to sit at the laptop for any extended periods. I'm obviously kind of new to all the modern digital production stuff but one thing I DO know about is guitars so I love discussing it and it's always nice to chat with other guit slappers. Everyone has a different take and inevitably there's something to take away from the convos. I'm not really a guitar hardware historian or pro tech or anything but I have punched out lots of different axes over the past twenty years and know what I like and what works... especially with budget gear. This is an epic rant but I can't do much else today because I'm too sore. I'm also bored so I figured I'd yammer about axes just for sanity's sake before calling it a day.
    So yeah I guess it was the pic messing me up... unless maybe it has a non standard headstock for an Epi. I was just thinking it might have been one of the older Ibanez Les Paul copies from the seventies. Those apparently have become quite sought after in recent years (they sell for around $700 now so if any of ya'll have one sitting around and thought it was worthless check again). That particular copy was part of Gibson's initial patent infringement freak outs which you can google. Kind of interesting stuff. That type of cloning is also probably why they really started ramping up the Epiphone line because they realized that not everyone is willing to pay thousands of dollars for a full on Gibby but want the tones, look and playability of one and someone somewhere was bound to provide that for them... so they'd better do it themselves.

    Anyway I used to find Epi models just great and in most ways almost as good as their Gibson counterparts but in the past decade or so the Epis have been very hit or miss. Sometimes you get one that plays as good (or better) than the real thing or it's so cruddy you'd be better of with a toy guitar. I wouldn't buy a newer Epi without actually playing it for a while first which is a shame because I have to do all my purchasing from afar these days. Also if anyone is looking at those Epi Goth Series just move on. I've had to wrestle with a few and they are AWFUL. If you really want an axe that has piercings and gaping holes carved out of the body for no reason whatsoever you're better of just buying a regular model and taking a router to it yourself. Seriously awful awful guitars.

    It does sound like you got a good one though. Is it an older model (like early-mid 90's)?

    I love inexpensive, offbrand, semi offbrand, beat up, scratch and dent, used, etc... guitars. They've been my staple for a looong time. I've bashed around guitars so badly over the years and have always been on a tight budget so buying anything over $500 just seemed wasteful. It also eventually became very apparent it was completely unnecessary.

    Now I've owned and played some very nice and expensive guitars over the years but that was because I was forced into it by band members and the like who just wanted to see those headstocks. What I found was there was a slight improvement, sometimes, but it was certainly NEVER an extra $1000 + improvement. NEVER. For that kind of cash I could get a quality built guitar with a good body/neck for a few hundred bucks then replace the hardware/electronics and end up with a FAR superior instrument and still have cash left over for beer... lots of beer. ;-p

    For example... my main guitar now is an old 95 Yamaha Pacifica 112 (the strat style). It had been modded with the Dimarzio Superstrat set up. The thing sounds amazing and after setting up the intonation, action and adjusting the truss rod it plays amazing too. I plan to replace the nut because it is the original plastic nut and I'm getting some slight buzzing at the lower frets (very slight but enough to bug an anal dude like me) and maybe eventually replace the stock machine heads with some knurled knob locking Schallers (however the factory machine heads stay in tune great as it is so that's not a NEED so much as a WANT.).

    The pickups themselves are worth $300 and I paid $300 for the guitar. That minor repair and fancy machine heads might run me another couple of hundred bucks. Once that's done the thing will probably kick the keisters of 90% of the American made Strats out there.

    A couple other things I'm thinking of doing is replacing the middle pickup because it's a little thin sounding and the raised staggered poles sometimes throw my picking off when I really dig into a riff or run. Also the tremolo bridge is great but could be better (it's certainly as good as a stock Fender tremolo though). For now I'm just going to pick up some graphite powder lubricant (like you would used to loosen up the locks on your doors) and put a bit on the threaded part of the tremolo arm so it doesn't create as much of a ghostly creaking when it swings around. It's charming enough to listen to but I would rather that be silenced while recording. My search for a suitable tremolo is ongoing. I'd also like to replace the fancy push button pot mechanisms which I find are problematic and don't really add much to the guitar's sound when activated (I've always disliked push pull systems actually... they cause far too many problems and make the wiring of the guitar much more complicated to repair or replace things easily). This guitar was used as a live instrument so there is some mild scratching when adjusting the pots as well (likely beer and sweat getting into them). Sure they can just be cleaned but really... if I plan on going wacky with on the fly volume/tone adjustments, especially in a recording setting, it's best to just have brand new quality pots installed.

    So if I add those things to the cost of my guitar I'm probably looking at another $300-$400. Now I'd be pretty much in the same price range of a base model, American made Stratocaster... except mine is completely customized, cleaner sounding, more versatile and yadda yadda yadda. I could even go crazy and buy a Fender neck with jumbo scalloped frets, get it cut to fit the Yammi (if that's even necessary) and round out the whole deal for the perfect Beepster Strat.

    The point is... why waste money on a name? The most important part is a good neck and a good body. For those two basic elements there are TONS of options. Even snagging stripped out/beat up Gibby's and Fender's then reloading them to your specs and wants is cheaper than buying a factory build and you get a custom guit. It's kind of like why many of us are here are dealing with Sonar instead of screwing around with Pro Tools. It does all the same stuff but you get SO much more for SO much less. You just gotta put your thinking bone into it a little more.

    Anyway... it's an interesting topic and hobby and whatever else and for some reason your handle Luteman makes me think of Luthiers and guitar building and repair and tweaking and customizing and all that good stuff. Also you seem like a nice guy and I like ya' so you got one of my special rants. I could go on for hours but this is already a novel and probably an extreme threadjack so I'll cut it off here. Peace.

    ;-)

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    Re:Help Finding/Installing Dimension Pro 1.5 2012/05/28 23:07:33 (permalink)
    Oh crud... hahaha. That was ridiculously long. Sorry guys. Like I said... I'm really bored.
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