Sonar X-Citing

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2012/06/03 06:28:26 (permalink)

Sonar X-Citing

I know this has been mentioned and commented about recently, but with the
ridiculously cheap deals Cakewalk are offering at the moment begs the question,
what are they about to serve up next??

Curious minds want to know =)

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    Re:Sonar X-Citing 2012/06/03 09:22:00 (permalink)
    Coming from a business/enterprise point of view... a new product for sure is being cooked up. Probably has been in the works since X1 was released. That's how they compete in the major line of DAW's. Cakewalk did the same between Sonar 8.5 and X1.  Even more so with other products such as their Interface line up. The UA line is super cheap compared to when it was released and since the Quad and Octa capture from ROLAND, even cheaper still. Just how the world works. Put something on clearance because "The Next Best Thing" is about to be revealed. I imagine it will be sometime yet, maybe 6 months to a year. Cakewalk will probably showcase their next product at a convention in Europe or the US a few months prior to release. 

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    Re:Sonar X-Citing 2012/06/03 12:05:24 (permalink)
    A new synth I would think.

    A paid update for X1 w/ those goodies that are on sale right now included.

    That is what Cake's sale now means, historically.  And across the retail spectrum.

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    Re:Sonar X-Citing 2012/06/03 21:52:22 (permalink)
    I don't remember Cakeqalk show casing a SONAR release beforehand. There's usually a press release that it's release is imminent then a firm date given about 3 weeks out.

    Speculating that they've double their production cycle to 2 years would see us due for a new X2?  release anywhere from September/October (which used to be the pre X1 release time) to December which was the time of year X1 was released.

    Personally I think we're due for a new version about September 2012.
    Seems funny to see Cakeqalk move to longer dev' cycle as Adobe just announced an annual  development cycle for its CS product line.

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    Re:Sonar X-Citing 2012/06/03 22:23:12 (permalink)
    Adobe's so far behind Sonar X1 it'll take them many many years of updates just to catch up to where Sonar X1 is now.

    Even one of their beta testers told me, Audition is only to be considered an editing program, NOT a music production program...what a crock...
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    Re:Sonar X-Citing 2012/06/03 22:43:40 (permalink)
    I wasn't talking about Adobe's Audition software. I was talking about the development cycles of their whole CS product range.
    As for Audition it makes no pretense at being anything like SONAR. However having used it for years for it's sophisticated audio editing tools for that purpose even Audition 2 is light years ahead of SONAR's audio editing features.
    Audition 3 fell behind a little and now with Audition CS 6 released Audition is nearly back to where it was after being rewritten from the ground up.

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    Re:Sonar X-Citing 2012/06/03 23:06:30 (permalink)
    Adobe used to promote Audition as a production tool, they even tried a little midi in version 3.0. They decided they want to spend their development money on making the program compatible with MAC's. In the meantime they dropped midi, and cd burning and called it an upgrade, version CS 5.5. They no longer promote it as music production software. It's all bs. Now they came out with version 6, re-instated cd burning and want to charge us an additional upgrade fee. Sorry, I'm not buying it. Dealing with Adobe is like playing a shell game, now you see it, now you don't. I got fed up with them and thier attitude, and dropped using Audition for Sonar X1....even Essentials is a better program than Audition. With Producer, you get so many extras it puts Audition to shame. That is why my upgrade budget went to Cakewalk instead of Adobe.
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    Re:Sonar X-Citing 2012/06/04 09:20:16 (permalink)
    I would never, and have never considered Audition as a DAW but certainly up to Audition 2 it was one of the best audio editors available. I still have it on my system and use it for pure audio editing along with Sound Forge10 depending on the editing requirements. I also have the full CS5.5 Master Suite but wouldn't consider using Audition CS5.5 for any serious audio work when I still have Audition 2 available. Because of the drastic changes I didn't ever go for Audition 3.
    As for CS6 I won't be upgrading as Adobe has instituted an unfair upgrade pricing policy that effects Australian purchasers specifically.

    As a pure audio editor SONAR is fair at best. As a DAW it is among the best.

    Audition any version and SONAR any version are 2 entirely different classes of programs.

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    Re:Sonar X-Citing 2012/06/04 10:22:59 (permalink)
    Audition/Cool Edit used to refer to itself as a music production program, hence the multi-track capabilities. They made it sound like they were a daw, and they were except that they didn't do midi. They tried midi in Audition 3.0 then retreated, and started calling themselves an audio editing program, and did nothing but bad mouth midi users. Midi, VSTi instruments, heck even Guitar Rig 5 won't work with it. This is what I am talking about, these are essential tools in music production and the people at Adobe turn their back on this stuff,  and come off with the attitude that they know more about music than anybody. They got their heads so far up their rear ends they don't even want to hear about making music with midi. As far as they are concerned, midi musicians aren't real musicians, oh but it's okay to have loops in Loopology ?? And they want me to pay for an upgrade that basically is not much more than a cd burning program ??  Baloney !!
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    Re:Sonar X-Citing 2012/06/04 10:26:21 (permalink)
    Another thing, when the subject of upgrading to a 64 bit program comes up, they just come up with excuses on why they should remain a 32 bit program.
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    Re:Sonar X-Citing 2012/06/04 10:38:37 (permalink)
    uuummmm...I thought this was about what CW had up their collective sleeve?

    As far as I'm concerned I'm going with the idea that come October we'll be seeing X2 come out...

    The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate.

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    Re:Sonar X-Citing 2012/06/04 10:40:31 (permalink)
    It is about Cakewalk. I'm demonstrating what a fine, advanced program it is in comparison to what else is out there.
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    Re:Sonar X-Citing 2012/06/04 13:57:14 (permalink)
    It would be nice for Cake to wait another 6 - 8 months before releasing anything! X1 is ok at the moment and buy them offering other deals it looks like they will be thinking along those lines. Which is a good thing as we are looking for something a bit special arent we?

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    Re:Sonar X-Citing 2012/06/04 14:18:55 (permalink)
    Who knows what cakewalk has up it's sleave.  As for the Audition vs Sonar comparisons , it truly is apples and oranges.  There was a very brief moment when Audition branched into DAW-like features, but it was limited to basic midi features, poor soft synth support and basic support for loop based production.  It was a failed experiment and dropped as quickly as it was implemented.

    I do have some insight as to why Audition took a step backward.  When Adobe acquired Cool Edit, it had recently dropped making their production suite for Mac OS.  When they resumed Mac support, they had to deal with the problem of Audion being a windows only product.  The initial solution was to drop Audition from the production suite and they introduced the cross-platfom, but awful Soundbooth program. They also upgraded Audition to 3.0 for windows. With the CS5.5 version of their suite, they introduced a cross-platform version of Audition that seemed more like a hybrid of Soundbooth and Audition.  The emphasis being more on integration with suite than actual product improvement.  The latest incarnation of Audition pretty much put back most of what was in Audition 3 but completely drops any DAW-like features.
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