jwh
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Quick V-Vocal Question
Hi, Pretty new to V-Vocal, when using V-Vocal, after assigning a clip, on the V-Vocal interface when you hit the correct button, there is a red line roughly following the original yellow line, do you then have to phisically line up both lines to have the correct pitch ? Hope this makes sense ? Thanks John
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Re:Quick V-Vocal Question
2012/06/05 11:05:01
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No. The red line indicates where the pitch was....
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Re:Quick V-Vocal Question
2012/06/05 22:53:37
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Use the pencil tool to draw a line at the correct pitch.
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Re:Quick V-Vocal Question
2012/06/06 09:55:01
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I like many things about V-Vocal but now use Melodyne mainly because I found it difficult to drag notes to the correct pitches in V-Vocal: it is harder to see when you have it exactly right, or, alternatively, when you have it a few cents off, which is what you want when creating doubles or choirs. I also found the pencil awkward, although it is a great feature that V-Vocal offers that. I really like the V-Vocal system for adding or deleting vibrato, also. I do find that I can rip through a vocal track and do the correction about twice as fast in Melodyne.
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Re:Quick V-Vocal Question
2012/06/06 14:39:10
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in VVocal, tell it what key the song is in (if applicable). Then adjust the strength and vibrato and hit "correct". If you are new, you may want to hit "undo", and try it again a few times with different settings. After you find the desired level of correction, it still may not have every note that way you want it. Now use the line, pencil, or arrow tool (which can define and adjust regions) to sculpt the pitch to your liking. The arrow tool will have the most natural result, then the draw, then line is least realistic but is very useful in some situations (vocoder sound, etc)
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Re:Quick V-Vocal Question
2012/06/06 17:06:10
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jwh
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Re:Quick V-Vocal Question
2012/06/07 08:30:35
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I'm obviously being a bit thick here, when you select a vox clip and create a V-Vocal clip, there is the vox sound wave with a yellow graph going up and down, when you select the key, then select the correct button, another graph appears in red, do you then move the yellow to match the red graph or the other way round ? Thanks John
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Re:Quick V-Vocal Question
2012/06/07 18:07:01
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As stated above, the red line indicates the previous pitch. The yellow line indicated the new, corrected (or adjusted) pitch.
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Re:Quick V-Vocal Question
2012/06/08 01:25:03
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jwh . . . the post by "Blix YZ" describes the best way to use V-Vocal, and always keep in mind if you are looking for a "natural sounding" pitch correction, only a subtle movement of the yellow line is needed. When the yellow lines are moved too far (away from the red lines) it begins to sound robotic, and perhaps need to be re-sung.
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Re:Quick V-Vocal Question
2012/06/08 02:15:41
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jwh I'm obviously being a bit thick here, when you select a vox clip and create a V-Vocal clip, there is the vox sound wave with a yellow graph going up and down, when you select the key, then select the correct button, another graph appears in red, do you then move the yellow to match the red graph or the other way round ? Thanks John The "correct" button is like an okay button. So when you have "Scale" set and you select an area then hit "correct" it is automatically correcting the selected data to the scale within the correction parameters you set. (Note, vibrato, sense) The red line shows the original pitch and the yellow line the corrected pitch. You cannot move the red line. The only way to get rid of it is erase the edits. You can then make manual corrections but even then you'll get a red line to show original pitch. If you didn't you'd have no visual feedback on which parts of the audio had been edited or not.
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Re:Quick V-Vocal Question
2012/06/08 10:17:40
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when you hit the correct button Your first mistake was hitting the "Correct" button. Unless you're going for a T-Pain/Cher effect, you should never, ever click that button. It's like pointing your car in the general direction you want to go and then taking your hands off the wheel while hoping for the best. Instead, listen to each phrase while ignoring those white lines in the V-Vocal display. If the phrase doesn't sound out-of-tune, move on to the next one. When you find a section that is clearly in need of correction, highlight just the portion that needs fixing and manually move it up or down. Start and end your selected areas in natural silences between words. If a phrase is too vibrato-y, select it the same way, choose the Vibrato tool and bring the vibrato down manually, in gradual steps while listening to the result. You can easily un-do any edit, or any portion of an edit, using the Erase tool. Until you get the hang of pitch editing, you'll find this feature very helpful. The key to the whole process is to use your ears, not your eyes. And never, ever hit the "Correct" button.
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Re:Quick V-Vocal Question
2012/06/08 14:47:10
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biflipper your first mistake was hitting the "Correct" button. Unless you're going for a T-Pain/Cher effect, you should never, ever click that button. With V-Vocal's default settings, the "Correct" button does not give you anything remotely like the T-Pain/Cher effect. Do this: Create a V-Vocal clip, click "Scale" then click the note that corresponds to the scale, then click "Correct". That will keep all the natural pitch variations of the voice intact, and it will nudge the notes into the scale. If anything, it's too far away from the Cher effect, since it usually doesn't do enough correction with the default settings and you need to further manually adjust it. "Correct" is a great starting point.
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