maybe a bad PLUGIN!

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2012/06/11 23:29:08 (permalink)

maybe a bad PLUGIN!

Ca someone tell me or point me in the direction of how to find if a bad plugin is causing problems.This is crazy,every singlw timw I close sonar it crashes,I mean evrytime and Im not sure what to do.I have sonar x1d producer expanded runh on a windows 64 bit 8gig ram 540gm hard drive with a ua-25ex cakewalk interface.Everytime it crashes and i reopen sonar,it cannot find the ua-25ex,and actually if i opwn reason 6 it cant either.So i have to restart my system.I appreciate any help
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    tomixornot
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    Re:maybe a bad plaugin 2012/06/11 23:42:01 (permalink)
    Just a suggestion, is your Win, video adapter, interface driver, etc.. all updated to latest ? 

    Once (still new) my Win 7 (not X1..thankfully).. starts with problem, have to boot a few times to get it to work. After some major auto updates, I don't see that problem anymore.

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    Re:maybe a bad plaugin 2012/06/11 23:47:46 (permalink)
    Re-read you post.. Did you get sonar crash if you just open and close it without loading a project ?

    If a project is causing that, perhaps taking out the plugin one by one will reveal the bad ones ?

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    Re:maybe a bad plaugin 2012/06/12 10:24:02 (permalink)
    ...every singlw timw I close sonar it crashes

    If this is literally true, then the crash should occur when you close a brand-new, empty project. If that's the case, then you've already eliminated all plugins as the cause.


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    Re:maybe a bad plaugin 2012/06/12 11:09:39 (permalink)
    tomixornot


    Just a suggestion, is your Win, video adapter, interface driver, etc.. all updated to latest ? 

    Once (still new) my Win 7 (not X1..thankfully).. starts with problem, have to boot a few times to get it to work. After some major auto updates, I don't see that problem anymore.

    Hey i know the asio driver is fine,and pretty sure windows drivers are fine,not sure what my video adapter is

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    Re:maybe a bad plaugin 2012/06/12 11:15:31 (permalink)
    Hey good point I just opened a new project and then closed it and had no problem,so do I really have to remove plugins one by one till I find a problem?I use lots of them.Thanks

    Plus does anyone know how to edit the thread title,I started thread and misspelled plugin. Dang I am a bonehead

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    Re:maybe a bad plaugin 2012/06/12 15:07:13 (permalink)
    Just edit your first post. You can then change the title.

    I know of no other method for eliminating plugins other than by removing them and testing. You can shorten the process, however, by doing a binary search. Start by removing half the plugins. That will cut the number of suspect plugins in half. Next, cut the remaining plugins in half and keep doing that until you've isolated the one causing a problem. This will never take more than 7 iterations, no matter how many plugins you have.


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    Re:maybe a bad plaugin 2012/06/12 20:39:55 (permalink)
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    Just edit your first post. You can then change the title.

    I know of no other method for eliminating plugins other than by removing them and testing. You can shorten the process, however, by doing a binary search. Start by removing half the plugins. That will cut the number of suspect plugins in half. Next, cut the remaining plugins in half and keep doing that until you've isolated the one causing a problem. This will never take more than 7 iterations, no matter how many plugins you have.

    Hey thanks bitflipper your a good man!I think its some waves plugins,and they are supposed to be the best.So i uninstalled them,i should re-install right?Do plugins cause crashes because of a bad install or is it a million different things?

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    Re:maybe a bad plaugin 2012/06/12 20:58:18 (permalink)
    You can hold the shift key while starting Sonar and choose not to load the plug-ins. Then you can go through them by enabling them one by one until you find the right one.

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    Re:maybe a bad plaugin 2012/06/13 05:48:38 (permalink)
    if you think you have Waves plugins, and you hear they are the best
    then i am going to suggest the possiblity you are using cracked software,
    if that is the case, you have no idea what has been done to the
    code to make it work
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    Re:maybe a bad plaugin 2012/06/13 06:23:59 (permalink)
    a few 3rd party plugins when not authorised (were trials) have crashed sonar for me in the past.. normally ones that used e-licenser once the trial/authorised was added to the dongle,  they were fine
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    Re:maybe a bad plaugin 2012/06/13 08:09:04 (permalink)
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    Re:maybe a bad plaugin 2012/06/13 10:17:45 (permalink)
    I think its some waves plugins,and they are supposed to be the best.So i uninstalled them,i should re-install right?Do plugins cause crashes because of a bad install or is it a million different things?

    Waves plugins are among the best, yes. But I know of no garden-variety plugin that would crash SONAR without being inserted into a project. Plugins normally don't install a bunch of extra stuff that might introduce, say, version incompatibilities. It's unlikely that the mere presence of some plugin is causing your crashes.

    Your best bet is to have CW support analyze a minidump for you. Every time SONAR crashes, it creates a minidump, a file that captures what was happening at the time of the crash and which module actually raised the exception that caused the crash. Open a support ticket and they'll instruct you on uploading your minidump.


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