DaveT
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V-Vocal High Pitch Feedback
Been working on some surf/car type music with some very high vocal stuff (ala Beachboys). When I tune up some of the high vocals I can hear something that sounds like feed back. At first I thought it was the vocal mic feeding back into the headphones, but after re-recording and tuning with V-Vocal it's still there.
Works fine on the lower key vocals.
The good new is, the band guys can't hear it. But I can - even after mixing the tunes.
So, anyone ever experience this? FWIW, this is the first time I've ever used V-Vocal.
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sock monkey
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Re:V-Vocal High Pitch Feedback
2012/06/14 15:02:08
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There are always some sort of artifacts associated with pitch correction software. But a recommendation is to only apply the correction to short sections that really need it. Never render the whole track unless you desire that "sound".
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DaveT
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Re:V-Vocal High Pitch Feedback
2012/06/14 17:03:15
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sock monkey
There are always some sort of artifacts associated with pitch correction software. But a recommendation is to only apply the correction to short sections that really need it. Never render the whole track unless you desire that "sound".
Sock, Correction was applied to short sections. I figured it was some distortion or artifact. Well, if that's how it works so be it. Thanks for the reply, DaveT
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TonyFlyingSquirrel
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Re:V-Vocal High Pitch Feedback
2012/06/16 16:41:30
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I only use it to move the note if it's about a 1/4 tone off pitch at the very most. Any more than that & you get artifacts. Also, I don't really use it for longer notes, maybe 32nd notes at the most, but nothing with any sustain, especially longer vowels.
post edited by TonyFlyingSquirrel - 2012/06/23 16:25:19
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DaveT
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Re:V-Vocal High Pitch Feedback
2012/06/17 10:06:01
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TonyFlyingSquirrel
I only use it to move the note if it's about a 1/4 tone off pitch at the very most. Any more than that & you get artifacts.
Also, I don't really use it for longer notes, maybe 32 notes at the most, but nothing with any sustain, especially longer vowels.
Tony, OK, yup - I'm trying to correct longer notes. This was my first attempt at V-Vocal so I really didn't know what to expect. I used to have an older version of Autotune. Don't recall having this issue with that software. Thanks for the reply. DaveT
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Re:V-Vocal High Pitch Feedback
2012/06/23 16:29:16
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No problem, I learned by trial and error also. Sometimes just playing with it to the minimums and extremes to experirment and familiarize yourself with it is the best way to learn. Remember, it's all reversable anyway, just don't bounce it to a track if it is not exactly what you're looking for.
A good vocal take is always the best approach anyway. There is no way on earth you can polish a turd, so to speak.
On occassion, especially if I've gone weeks without singing, I'll lay down a scratch track, over correct it, then use it as a guide track on my ipod while in the car to practice with, knowing well in advance that it will eventually be erased.
A well rehearsed and excellently performed, pitch correct recorded performance will always convey better than anything less that has been altered for the hopes of an improved result.
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DaveT
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Re:V-Vocal High Pitch Feedback
2012/06/25 14:54:05
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TonyFlyingSquirrel
No problem, I learned by trial and error also. Sometimes just playing with it to the minimums and extremes to experirment and familiarize yourself with it is the best way to learn. Remember, it's all reversable anyway, just don't bounce it to a track if it is not exactly what you're looking for.
A good vocal take is always the best approach anyway. There is no way on earth you can polish a turd, so to speak.
On occassion, especially if I've gone weeks without singing, I'll lay down a scratch track, over correct it, then use it as a guide track on my ipod while in the car to practice with, knowing well in advance that it will eventually be erased.
A well rehearsed and excellently performed, pitch correct recorded performance will always convey better than anything less that has been altered for the hopes of an improved result.
You must be living in my studio because I pretty much do the same thing. Did some more work over the weekend with better results. It does take practice to make V-Vocal work properly.
Anyway, thanks for the reply.
DaveT
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