Melodyne Timing

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2012/06/14 23:22:31 (permalink)

Melodyne Timing

 Scenario: Two or more voices singing on separate tracks (duet, doubling, multiple harmonies, etc.). They are not perfectly together at the time of recording. I would like to tweak them a bit so they are right together. When you have multiple takes or several parts, it is very hard for a singer to keep a good feel while focusing on singing the same part over and over to get the timing perfectly aligned to the other parts, or to another singer who sounds good but may have sung the part somewhat freely. Problem: Quantize is possible, however, some songs need to be a little more free, and quantizing does not always sound right (and sometimes makes things worse). I try to move notes but since the voices are on different tracks it is a very tedious process of trial-and-error and requires flipping back and forth between multiple Melodyne views for various tracks. It also seems every time I move one note, the timing of the previous or subsequent note sounds even more off. Singing is not like a MIDI piano roll where the notes are tightly aligned to the timing grid: sung notes usually have a start up and a decay phase. Any ideas, tips, or tricks for tightening things up? Thanks.
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    don4777
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    Re:Melodyne Timing 2012/06/15 23:23:58 (permalink)
    I have used Melodyne for aligning vocals like you suggest but abandon this in favor of using Melodyne Studio (where you can load multiple tracks) or I use AudioSnap.  AudioSnap makes this incredibly easy.  Just enable AudioSnap for the track you want to move, grab an existing transient or create one where I need it and move the vocals into alignment.  I have found that in a lot of cases you may also want to place a transient marker to limit the area of the clip you are moving.  The extra marker will nail the rest of the clip in place and limit movement to the piece you want to move. 

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    Re:Melodyne Timing 2012/06/16 02:26:20 (permalink)
    I recently downloaded the free 14 day trial of Vocalign, and it does this with just a couple of clicks after importing the relevant tracks. It's about $ 289.00, but it works very well.

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    Re:Melodyne Timing 2012/06/16 02:39:32 (permalink)
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     Scenario: Two or more voices singing on separate tracks (duet, doubling, multiple harmonies, etc.). They are not perfectly together at the time of recording. I would like to tweak them a bit so they are right together. When you have multiple takes or several parts, it is very hard for a singer to keep a good feel while focusing on singing the same part over and over to get the timing perfectly aligned to the other parts, or to another singer who sounds good but may have sung the part somewhat freely. Problem: Quantize is possible, however, some songs need to be a little more free, and quantizing does not always sound right (and sometimes makes things worse). I try to move notes but since the voices are on different tracks it is a very tedious process of trial-and-error and requires flipping back and forth between multiple Melodyne views for various tracks. It also seems every time I move one note, the timing of the previous or subsequent note sounds even more off. Singing is not like a MIDI piano roll where the notes are tightly aligned to the timing grid: sung notes usually have a start up and a decay phase. Any ideas, tips, or tricks for tightening things up? Thanks.

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