MC6-Replace MIDI instruments by my own VST Instruments Possible?

what is the name of this VSTi?

the instrument will not show up in the VST rack until it is inserted.  there should be 2 ways to insert it.  1) from the browser  2) from the insert menu.

if this is a native 64bit VSTi, it will not work.  you have to run 32bit VST's and VSTi's with MC6 which is a 32bit application.

There are many that I already use in another program, Like Wusikstation32, Proteus VX, Kontakt 4,.. all 32 bit VSTis. Also, those others from HGFortune, and others.

Let me explain. Maybe I'm not doing what I should when loading a MIDI file. I go to the File Menu, click Open, choose a MIDI song, load it and it plays Ok with MC6. But when I want to change the sound and replace it with a VSTi, I click on a track, then on the Insert Menu/Virtual Synths (Cannot say how it is in English but in French it's "Synthés Virtuels", I have the French version.) It shows my list of VSTis that appears (with the missing ones not appearing of course ) but when I try to load one from there, anyone, the program crashes with a message popup notifying me of an error of exception (alas, too bad I cannot upload you a capture file of this message here), then asking me to save my file before MC6 closes down. 


I will try to translate what is written on the message:


A fatal error has occurred.
Module:C:/ProgramFilesx86/Cakewalk/Music Creator 6/Music Creator 6_EXE
A Dump file on the incident has been created here:
c:/Users/MyName/AppData/Roaming/Cakewalk/Music Creator 6/Mini Dumps/Title of my song_06192012_084344.dmp
Exception code: c0000005
Address:004080DB:0018EA84:776DFACA
Because of this error, Music Creator will have to close abnormally.
Do you wish that Music Creator tries to save a recuperation copy of your work? (YES or NO)


And That's it! Just by trying to load a VST, I had this appearing.
I hope it helps. Thank you!
GintheClassic

Guitarhacker


First, the factory sound card is not a good sound card to use with MC and synths. 


Next... the synth needs to be added to the list through the PLug in Manager so it will show up in the list.

You can then do the INSERT SYNTH or you can manually add a midi track and an audio track and insert the synth in the audio track FX bin and link the midi source output to the synth.  either method will work. 


Some synths may not work, but if their code is well written, they should work. I have not seen a single synth fail to work that has been added to my synth plug in list and comes from a reputable source.  

Thanks Guitarhacker for this precision, but I already knew that the sound card wasn't a good choice since I have read some nice tutorials about it. Nonetheless, I still can play more than 8 synth tracks (TTS) with effects added, with no problems at all. I've made a few tests with the configuration panel (latency) and found a good compromise, at least for my use and my PC configuration.

Thank you again but all my Synths are already added in the Plug in Manager and most of them have been tested in other DAWs as well and work perfectly. Wusik, Proteus VX and Kontakt 4 work well with other DAWs.
On some of my MIDI songs (many have less), I have more than 12 tracks and it plays beautifully in MC6. Still, when I insert a Synth, any Synth, it crashes with a dump file announcement. 


I will try your other advice about adding an audio track and inserting the Synth in the FX bin and linking the MIDI source output to the Synth. Hope it works!


Thanks!
GintheClassic

it's supposed to be here:
c:/Users/MyName/AppData/Roaming/Cakewalk/Music Creator 6/Mini Dumps/Title of my song_06192012_084344.dmp

keep us posted on the progress you make with support on this. 

GintheClassic

Guitarhacker


keep us posted on the progress you make with support on this. 

Sure will. I just sent the ticket a few minutes ago.


BTW, I tried your suggestion on creating an audio track (TTS) and linking the MIDI track to it. 
With just this one track linked I get heavy latency ( MME 32 bits, at any latency adjustment ) to the point that the track is shifted in time and finally doesn't play anymore (it still shows as playing in the meters). This doesn't happen when I use Cakewalk TTS and import the MIDI file. That song has 5 MIDI tracks and plays beautifully with TTS as Synth in normal play. I love the sounds, by the way.
Furthermore, I have problems loading Asio4All. It tells me that it's in use by another program but I only have Music Creator 6 opened. I also have Mixcraft 6 that uses Asio4All but it is closed when I use MC6 so it should have unloaded from it. Even if I unplug Asio from Mixcraft, it still tells me that it's in use.. By what? With 6GB DDR3 Ram on Intel i7 870, in Win 7 64 bits, I should have no problem playing a single synth and five MIDI tracks, even with my factory sound card (Realtek HD).


What am I doing wrong here?


Thanks for any help
GintheClassic

you are trying to use the factory card to play soft synths.  No matter what mode (driver) you use, or if you use ASIO4ALL successfully, with a factory card you will have some sort of audible latency. It can and does very from just being a minor issue  to impossible to work with it....


Why it works with the downloaded tracks but not the others ?  IDK.   


I will say this.... the factory cards are not designed to work with the massive data demands we put on them. Once you purchase an after market card...we call them musical interfaces, you will see a huge difference. I can run multiple "heavy synths" like Kontakt and East West as well as multiple Sound Centers and they all run in perfect sync and with latency so low that it is not perceivable to the ear.


That is the reason almost everyone here, who is serious about home recording has a good music interface. The factory cards and ASIO4ALL patches simply do not do the job like a professional ASIO based USB music interface will do it. 

check my websjiite for soundcard recommendations.