Using MIDI notes to control parameters

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2012/06/30 02:13:34 (permalink)

Using MIDI notes to control parameters

I'm pretty sure the subject speaks for itself, but I'll explain what I'm looking for anyway. See, I have this plug-in I downloaded recently (dblue Glitch) which has some cool audio manipulation techniques (tape stop, gater, reverse, etc) for that digital, glitchy, DJ type of feel. Anyway, this VST isn't very Sonar X1 friendly. I activated the ACT option and I have an M-Audio Trigger Finger MIDI controller ready to be assigned to the corresponding effects. The only problem is that Glitch has its own MIDI learn option and it doesn't seem to cooperate the way they claim it does... which is supposed to be really easy. So I've almost given up on trying to make it work. That said, a few weeks back I saw this...

http://www.youtube.com/wa...4UJf0&feature=plcp

And I thought "is there a way to assign a MIDI track or MIDI notes from the piano roll to the parameter of a VST plug-in?" I mean, I know there's automation which I use for fades and gradual effects but it's completely ineffective for real-time stuff like this. I have greater control over MIDI notes than automation nodes with my current setup. Plus I can quantize/humanize the MIDI notes as desired so it would be great if I could just have a MIDI track affecting whatever parameters I would be using at the time.

And if such an option isn't possible, it's all good. It would be great to have it, but I'll survive without it.

Thanks in advance.

-metalpants
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    DraggedDownByTheStone
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    Re:Using MIDI notes to control parameters 2012/06/30 07:07:38 (permalink)
    If Glitch supports midi input by itself, then I think you can try this workaround: go to the Cakewalk plugin manager, select Glitch (it should be in VST effects section), open up plugin properties and check "configure as synth" option. Now you can insert this plugin as an instrument (it should appear in the VST instruments section) on any track or bus and route a midi track to it. I tried this with some vocoders that appeared as effects by default but needed midi data input for the carriage signal. Of course the plugin should be capable of accepting midi data in the first place.
    Also I think there was some user-made MFX plugin in early Sonar times (like, Sonar 3 or 4 maybe) that translated note on/off events to controller data which you could then feed into plugin automation, but 32 bits MFX won't work in 64 bit Sonar (or at least I did not find a way to do that).

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    Re:Using MIDI notes to control parameters 2012/07/02 16:14:50 (permalink)
    is there a way to assign a MIDI track or MIDI notes from the piano roll to the parameter of a VST plug-in

     
    Software: Bome's MIDI Translator.  The free Classic edition should do it.
     
    Hardware: Midi Solutions Event Processor.  Or the Plus version.  The best-kept secret in MIDI toolkits.
     
    I haven't worked with Glitch in quite some time, but the Trigger Finger is more than capable enough to provide the correct triggers without any additional software / hardware.  You *may* have to dive deeper into the Enigma editor ...
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    Re:Using MIDI notes to control parameters 2012/07/03 02:38:41 (permalink)
    b rock



    is there a way to assign a MIDI track or MIDI notes from the piano roll to the parameter of a VST plug-in

     
    Software: Bome's MIDI Translator.  The free Classic edition should do it.
     
    Hardware: Midi Solutions Event Processor.  Or the Plus version.  The best-kept secret in MIDI toolkits.
     
    I haven't worked with Glitch in quite some time, but the Trigger Finger is more than capable enough to provide the correct triggers without any additional software / hardware.  You *may* have to dive deeper into the Enigma editor ...
    @ b rock:
     
    The 2nd URL seems to be a bad link at this time

    Philip  
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    Re:Using MIDI notes to control parameters 2012/07/03 02:59:51 (permalink)
    Philip

           
    The 2nd URL seems to be a bad link at this time

    There is an incomplete URL tag at the end of that hyperlink.


    http://www.midisolutions.com/prodevp.htm

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    Re:Using MIDI notes to control parameters 2012/07/03 10:09:21 (permalink)
    There is an incomplete URL tag at the end of that hyperlink.

     
    That's what I get for slipping in forum replies at work.  Doing my part to keep the "best kept secret" a secret.  I seem to be having difficulty in editing the original (also at work), so ... thanks.
     
    MIDI notes-to-CC is a useful conversion, among the many, many translations that an event processor can provide.  I've ended up with a MIDI Solution EPP box on both my pedalboard, and in my studio MIDI router configuration.  128 MIDI notes, and 128 levels of CC value.  Convert the first data byte of the note messages to the second data byte (value) of a CC message.
     
    It can be both a performance device, or a programming device.  It's a lot easier / more intuitive to program discrete CC levels into a MIDI pedalboard or effects boxes using a MIDI keybed.  Value of 64?  E above middle C.  Here's an example of how I use this kind of  translation to shift the intervals in a MIDI-capable harmonizer.
     
    PitchFactor H910/H949 Remote - MIDI Note
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