Mr. Mike


Wow. The arrogance. I understand the tools. I really do. I'll try and explain this as calmly as I can. 

No arrogance in my first reply, only the answer to what I thought were genuine questions in your post #6, which you apparently completely ignored to complain later about modifier keys.

Of course you can complain all you want, but lets face it, your approach was hardly honest was it? If you'd have simply said you don't like the 'new' way as much as 8.5 and then gone into full rant, I for one probably would have ignored the thread but I genuinely tried to answer what I thought was a genuine question. 

Only to find out a couple of post later that you aren't at all interested in the answers but simply want another 8.5 is better than X1 argument thread. It might be, I don't think so personally and neither do I care. I frequent these boards to help out where I can, learn where I can and have a laugh at some of the banter.


I don't like answering questions only to find out that the question asker isn't in the least bit interested in the answer, only in generating an argument. I'll finish this post and then bow out and leave you to it.....

In 8.5 I can edit all my envelopes, slip edit the track, move the track, do anything I need to do without any center clicking, shift clicking or any other nonsense. I can do it in the dark. I can do it on the fly with the music playing. This type of editing is something I do a lot of. Quite frankly, I hate it. My least favorite but essential task. 

To edit a typical 4 envelope track I have to shift click edit, shift click edit etc. My question to you is simply, how is this better? Some of you have made sport of me. Insinuating I don't understand the tools. Perhaps I need to read the manual.

One of the bigger complaints pre-X1 was the way envelopes and automation was implemented, that was probably why it was changed. As to how is it better..... It's no longer possible to accidentally edit or move the wrong thing. If you've never moved a clip by mistake while trying to edit automation you're much better at it than me. Perhaps it was dumbed down for us dumb boys? 


I suppose if envelope count is fairly low there probably isn't much of an advantage but once the envelopes start piling up and there's a lot of criss crossing going on the 'new' edit filter makes accidental editing of other envelopes impossible and IMHO better. The shift + click method is one way of switching quickly between them, shift + right click will also switch between the last two edit filter states. If you read these boards you'll also know that one of my complaints is that there is no way of seeing the envelope type that is about to be clicked on. If that is ever implimented the automation tools will be pretty much perfect for me.

I keep complaining because I feel I'm right. The tools are not better. They made them stupid proof. I don't need that. If you guys need the program to babysit your editing skills, fine. I don't. I want the old tools back. At lest give me a box I can check.

That's your opinion, I don't agree.

I'd like to use X1. I paid for it and some of the changes make a lot of sense and now that I'm used to it, the interface is better. I'm not as gaga over the Pro Channel as you boys are but I chalk that up to fanboi-ism. Seriously, it's not that good. Any UAD vst is better.

And now a word to the general attitude of the forum and the people that frequent it. It's mean. And arrogant. 

May I suggest a mirror?

Because of the things I mentioned, X1 does not fill my needs. And yet, because I have a 20 year history, I really want it to. When I express these concerns, I'm attacked. It's been insinuated several times that I'm stupid. I assure you, I'm not. And I have read the manual.

So you were asking a loaded question then.... 

In anticipation of the next round of insults. I will continue to use 8.5 which I regard as mostly superior to X1. I'll also continue to monitor this forum because it amuses me. In typical forum fashion, I expect you to pick up the one thing you can make a slight and misguided arugment against and reply. Go for it dood.

You won't get any from me now or in the future, you're going on the ignore list so I don't bother answering any more loaded questions that you don't want an answer to.