twaddle


Don't waste your money on session drummer

Too late... But I'm going to check out that BFD Eco too :^)


Can't have too many drums lol

SToons

chuckebaby


i think the sizzle kit is auesome
 

You mean you like the  2/5 or 3/5 of the kit that functions? Think of how awesome if would sound if it were -fixed- as the Old Zep was since the Dry Sizzle kit, incidentally, is the one other kit that's messed up in the Slate kits provided to users. Even Cakewalk has admitted the problem (see release notes for Producer 8.5.2 - the problem has still not been fixed. Are you starting to understand yet?).
 
For what it's worth, the Dry kits are messed up worse, the wet kits sound 'OK' although they're not, it's just that the wet snare samples mask the issue with the dry samples whereas the dry samples have nothing to mask the problems. The dynamic response and useable range are also messed up. Learn to use the SFZ file and you can control a whole heck of a lot more such as the wet/dry mix. You can barely tweak anything from Session Drummers' interface.

you know stoons,you have been here a little over two months and ive yet to see a positive post out of you.
instead you go searching for any thread with the title "session drummer" or "session drummer samples" and pull out your calculator just looking to smear and insult the software,not to mention the insults and downgrading you have made towards cakewalk programers.
and software programers.
 
normally when someone is as miserable with the samples or session drummer as you are they have their moment and move on.
but you just cant let it go.
for a small amount of time it was upseting to read your comments about your claims of the poor quility of cakewalk samples.
now i just feel bad for you.
 
sooner or later i hope you find some happiness in this software.
and hopefully even make some music rather then looking for imperfections in sfv samples.
that sounds like a lonely life.

SToons

chuckebaby

SToons

chuckebaby


i think the sizzle kit is auesome
 

You mean you like the  2/5 or 3/5 of the kit that functions? Think of how awesome if would sound if it were -fixed- as the Old Zep was since the Dry Sizzle kit, incidentally, is the one other kit that's messed up in the Slate kits provided to users. Even Cakewalk has admitted the problem (see release notes for Producer 8.5.2 - the problem has still not been fixed. Are you starting to understand yet?).
 
For what it's worth, the Dry kits are messed up worse, the wet kits sound 'OK' although they're not, it's just that the wet snare samples mask the issue with the dry samples whereas the dry samples have nothing to mask the problems. The dynamic response and useable range are also messed up. Learn to use the SFZ file and you can control a whole heck of a lot more such as the wet/dry mix. You can barely tweak anything from Session Drummers' interface.

you know stoons,you have been here a little over two months and ive yet to see a positive post out of you.
instead you go searching for any thread with the title "session drummer" or "session drummer samples" and pull out your calculator just looking to smear and insult the software,not to mention the insults and downgrading you have made towards cakewalk programers.
and software programers.
 
normally when someone is as miserable with the samples or session drummer as you are they have their moment and move on.
but you just cant let it go.
for a small amount of time it was upseting to read your comments about your claims of the poor quility of cakewalk samples.
now i just feel bad for you.
 
sooner or later i hope you find some happiness in this software.
and hopefully even make some music rather then looking for imperfections in sfv samples.
that sounds like a lonely life.

Let's see, I've only posted about 150 or more helpful, positive responses. Again it seems you choose not to read. I'm a full-time musician and have been since I was 16, music graduate of University as well as Vocational Honours Graduate from GIT (I worked my way thru university teaching at Domenic's Music Academy and gigging weekends), I own a music academy (Stittsville Music Academy 1-613-831-6989), I do session work, play in several bands, write music for commercials, documentaries and video games (Jagged Alliance series, Wizardry series etc.). Of course none of the following is my "serious" work as I do not hold ownership, but:
http://soundcloud.com/stoons-1
 
You might want to stop making silly assumptions about others' lives. Frankly, it's really none of your business nor is it appropriate in this forum.
 
There's nothing negative in the post you responded to, quite the opposite. Simple facts.

good luck with that.

I used SD when it first came out. But I had already started using EZD. So I mostly stuck with that till SD3 came out. Played with that a little and found it useful for some things. This in turn got me to purchase the Andy Johns Kit. And I have been satisfied with that purchase. When using SD3, the Andy Johns Kit is what I use mostly. It is worth the $20.

With that said, I got in on the BFD Eco sale for like $29? I forgot what it cost, but it was a "No Brainer" deal. And I have found this program vastly better than most. I would highly recommend the deal.

Even though I own BFD Eco, I could still buy another version and get the Platinum Samples kit for free, and that would be cheaper than getting the Rock Legend kit by itself?

how much is it in normal currency? (I mean pounds) for ezd or superior drummer. which would be the first install and not the kits!

twaddle


I must say that Eco exceeded my expectations by some way though. 
I would say the gap between Eco and it's big brother is considerably less than that between EZdrummer and Superior drummer.


Steve

What I was looking for in a drum program was simplicity. I found that in EZD.


But once I got going, got familiar with how softsynths/drum samplers worked, I found myself wanting a little more control. I can do it with EZD, but I find that BFD Eco has a better UI and I can get what I want/need inside that program.


As I don't own Superior Drummer or BFD, I can't really speak on how big that gap is. But I can say that Eco has much more control over EZD. And it's a big gap!!

Twaddle: Thanks mate Superior drummer is at a good price.

You answered both my questions too.

I've taken the plunge and I'm currently downloading the BFD Eco installer... over an hour left to wait for that.

I've encountered a problem at Platinum Samples. I registered there yesterday, to buy the Andy Johns expansion, but when I tried to log in a minute ago, to download my free Rock Legends pack, my password wasn't recognized. So I tried a password reset and my e-mail wasn't recognized, which is weird... I've checked my paypal history, and I know for certain which e-mail account I used. So I am going to have to e-mail the chaps at Platinum Samples... No big deal... I'm sure it will be sorted, even before my Eco download has finished.

synkrotron


I've taken the plunge and I'm currently downloading the BFD Eco installer... over an hour left to wait for that. 

Great choice!!  

I've encountered a problem at Platinum Samples....

 So I am going to have to e-mail the chaps at Platinum Samples... No big deal... I'm sure it will be sorted, even before my Eco download has finished.

You will get a good response from them. Good people. It will be sorted. If it hasn't already!! : )

I have found all three drum programs I have, Session Drummer 3, ezDrummer, and BFD Eco, to all be very useful. They all have their place. I use all of them from time to time. Sometimes two of them in the same project.

 
Huh...  I currently use EZ Drummer and SD3, whichever is best suited at the time.  But I've never layered them.  And now with BFD Eco back down in price, with a sample set thrown in for good measure, I may have to take the plunge as well.    I just wish y'all would stop twisting my arm.   Sheesh.   
 

Is that somebody twisting my arm?

 
Yes, yes it is.   Like the saying goes - what comes around goes around.   And apparently for a nominal fee too!    
 

So after a little help from our friends at Platinum Samples I bought and installed the Andy John's kit. I played with it for quite a few hours last night. It sounds perfect. It's pretty much the exact sound I was looking for. Even the toms that I mentioned sounded "floppy" on the demo were spot on (must have just been how they were being used in the demo). There aren't as many kit pieces included as I would have hoped but it is more or less a replica of my old set up and everything sounds so tight and perfectly tuned there's no real need for any extras. It also seems to get along better with my padKontrol in regards to triggering velocity levels than anything else I've tried. Not sure why that is. Could be that the standard SD3 content issue SToons has been talking about. Anyway, totally worth it. It's just a no fuss, awesome sounding modern drum kit. It is as close to as how I would have attempted to record my own drums back in the day (and would have failed to get such quality). I could see using this for many different genres easily without tweaking anything. For rock, blues and metal (which is mostly what I do) it is especially perfect. Just thought I'd let ya'll know. Thanks guys and thanks to Platinum Samples.