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Omnisphere dropout with Sonar X1b
Has anyone got this issue....?
When i insert Omnisphere VST i get Audio dropout i.e no audio. Sound file loads but no midi or audio. Im using ASIO drivers and the only way round this issue for me is to drop the latency to a minimum of 2048 samples which as you know is impossible to play synth @ that latency. I've tried swapping to WDM drivers but its worse. I now load the same setup in another DAW/s and have no problem at all. Could it be Sonars bitbridge that has an issue or is there a clash with Spectrasonics software! Please advise...
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Re:Omnisphere dropout with Sonar X1b
2012/07/06 11:05:02
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There should be no need to use BitBridge with Omnisphere, which comes in both 32- and 64-bit versions. But that's not your problem. Omnisphere is just very CPU-intensive. Bypassing other effects when live-tracking should let you lower the latency some.
My own solution is to use an external synth with a similar-sounding patch as the one I ultimately want to use in Omnisphere, record MIDI, and then subsequently redirect the MIDI track to Omnsiphere.
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Re:Omnisphere dropout with Sonar X1b
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Good answer but i use Sonar mainly as a synth/midi intensive recording application and Sonar is battling to keep more than 1 CPU hungry synth i.e spectrasonics vsts from operating at there normal level. i was hoping to use X1 live but just can't rely on it for stability. I love using sonar but i need a reliable platform to play live. i use the same setup in ProTools/abelton/cubase/logic/nuendo.....and no problems!!..........must say that sonar has let me down again 
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Re:Omnisphere dropout with Sonar X1b
2012/07/06 12:20:17
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Good answer but i use Sonar mainly as a synth/midi intensive recording application and Sonar is battling to keep more than 1 CPU hungry synth i.e spectrasonics vsts from operating at there normal level. i was hoping to use X1 live but just can't rely on it for stability. I love using sonar but i need a reliable platform to play live. i use the same setup in ProTools/abelton/cubase/logic/nuendo.....and no problems!!..........must say that sonar has let me down again
there are several people here who use omnisphere.. and a quick search would show a flood of threads if Sonar could not run a single track of Omnisphere, so clearly "sonar has let you down again" is misdirected wouldnt you think? bitflipper indicated to you that (pretty much) if you are using bitbridge you are using the wrong version of omnisphere..why not start from there?
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Re:Omnisphere dropout with Sonar X1b
2012/07/06 12:29:41
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NSA - why are you still using X1b?
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2012/07/06 12:41:31
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NSA - why are you still using X1b?
why would an update make a difference to my current issue with spectrasonics!!
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Re:Omnisphere dropout with Sonar X1b
2012/07/06 12:45:44
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Good answer but i use Sonar mainly as a synth/midi intensive recording application and Sonar is battling to keep more than 1 CPU hungry synth i.e spectrasonics vsts from operating at there normal level. i was hoping to use X1 live but just can't rely on it for stability. I love using sonar but i need a reliable platform to play live. i use the same setup in ProTools/abelton/cubase/logic/nuendo.....and no problems!!..........must say that sonar has let me down again
there are several people here who use omnisphere.. and a quick search would show a flood of threads if Sonar could not run a single track of Omnisphere, so clearly "sonar has let you down again" is misdirected wouldnt you think?
bitflipper indicated to you that (pretty much) if you are using bitbridge you are using the wrong version of omnisphere..why not start from there?
i have the most up2date version of omnisphere. i suggested bitbridge so that anyone who had or has an issue with omnisphere causing a dropout when starting up would be able to respond to my question. thats why im here and not at spectrasonics forum... 
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Re:Omnisphere dropout with Sonar X1b
2012/07/06 12:49:41
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NSA - why are you still using X1b?
why would an update make a difference to my current issue with spectrasonics!!
!! because whatever was fixed in the FREE update may have fixed your problem !!
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Re:Omnisphere dropout with Sonar X1b
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NSA - why are you still using X1b?
why would an update make a difference to my current issue with spectrasonics!!
!! because whatever was fixed in the FREE update may have fixed your problem !!
ok will try it....
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Re:Omnisphere dropout with Sonar X1b
2012/07/06 13:37:31
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Has anyone got this issue....?
When i insert Omnisphere VST i get Audio dropout i.e no audio. Sound file loads but no midi or audio. Im using ASIO drivers and the only way round this issue for me is to drop the latency to a minimum of 2048 samples which as you know is impossible to play synth @ that latency. I've tried swapping to WDM drivers but its worse. I now load the same setup in another DAW/s and have no problem at all. Could it be Sonars bitbridge that has an issue or is there a clash with Spectrasonics software! Please advise...
Regards
Dan
I have all the Spectrasonics instruments, Omnisphere, Trilian and Stylus RMX. All are in x64bit and there are non-stability issues in SONAR X1 x64 or SONAR 8.5 x64 or other DAWs. Load fast no problems. For best user experience you need a great computer and x64bit system and x64bit DAW to use this products. These instruments are highly recommended that everyone check out if you haven't already. .....what comes to my mind.....I don’t know.... but.... it could be that those they say they have major problems have visit and run/use the Crack-land software of Spectrasonics and also perhaps SONAR? By the way we don't use SONAR 1b anymore we are on update X1d build..
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Re:Omnisphere dropout with Sonar X1b
2012/07/06 13:50:14
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Good answer but i use Sonar mainly as a synth/midi intensive recording application and Sonar is battling to keep more than 1 CPU hungry synth i.e spectrasonics vsts from operating at there normal level. i was hoping to use X1 live but just can't rely on it for stability. I love using sonar but i need a reliable platform to play live. i use the same setup in ProTools/abelton/cubase/logic/nuendo.....and no problems!!..........must say that sonar has let me down again
Trolling & bull-s-hit if you ask me... If any have major problems with these instruments and like Kontakt sampler and so on it is definitely Pro Tools! It shows that you don’t have any real experience with these DAWs or programs. Any of these program that need of a lot RAM crash all day long with Pro Tools 10 or Pro Tools HD! That is why Pro Tools doesn’t work in any real professional environment except for tracking and recording. Tracking & recording works perfectly well and are even more stable and better with other DAWs like SONAR X1, Cubase, Logic Nuendo, Samplitude and STUDIO ONE and can also record and work with higher audio quality and unlimted track count then any Pro Tools version ever can. All other programs can also utilize all RAM too (more than 3GB) that Pro tools fail again… + work with film and surround doesn’t work in Pro Tools either. Pro Tools sucks big time so it’s just a lot of Bull-S-hit if you ask me!
Omnisphere has never crashed once with my SONAR X1 x64. None of any Spectrasonics instruments or Kontakt Sampler has led to a single crash yet. That I consider extremely stable software’s, don’t you think. .....what comes to my mind.....I don’t know.... but.... it could be that those they say they have major problems have visit and run/use the Crack-land of all kinds of softwares and Spectrasonics
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Re:Omnisphere dropout with Sonar X1b
2012/07/06 15:26:38
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 mmm Freddie H... your starting to sound like a broken record in your last three replies. What are you tring to say!! That my software is illegal! You should get your facts right bro before you start babbling on about my softwares authenticity. You cant say that you dont have issues either with Sonar, just L@@K @ how many topics you have posted. We come here to get help and thats what forums are for. Just because you say that you are Working in the BIG Studio! doesnt give you the right to suggest such things. anyways why are you using sonar when you have a picture of an ICON D Control and you hate ProTools!!!! Isnt that an AVID hardware product? I think we all know who the bull-s-hit-ter is here.......
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Re:Omnisphere dropout with Sonar X1b
2012/07/06 16:25:29
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mmm Freddie H... your starting to sound like a broken record in your last three replies. What are you tring to say!! That my software is illegal! You should get your facts right bro before you start babbling on about my softwares authenticity. You cant say that you dont have issues either with Sonar, just L@@K @ how many topics you have posted. We come here to get help and thats what forums are for. Just because you say that you are Working in the BIG Studio! doesnt give you the right to suggest such things. anyways why are you using sonar when you have a picture of an ICON D Control and you hate ProTools!!!! Isnt that an AVID hardware product? I think we all know who the bull-s-hit-ter is here.......
I’m sorry if I get you offended. It was not my attention at all. I never said that you used any illegal software. I still feel it seem very odd that you asking about bitbridge and the use of the 32bit version in SONAR x64 when there are a x64bit version of Omnisphere for download for any legit user? I suggest you download the x64bit version from Spectrasonics web-page and use that instead with SONAR x64. *Note, during the years on all kinds of FORUMS some people have always come and go stated they have major problems with all kinds of software’s, then in the end it all comes down they used the cracked software version. That was the point with my original post! About the console you call ICON D Controller. It’s a Euphonix MC 5 and it was just recently bought by AVID from Euphonix that are the original maker of all these hardware consoles and software’s. AVID continue to buy anything good out there because AVID has nothing or can bring something good to the table by themselves. So in a desperate move they instead try to buy all kinds of great technology hardware + software’s out there on the market. I hope that answer your questions. Have a great weekend.
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Re:Omnisphere dropout with Sonar X1b
2012/07/06 16:45:18
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Slightly off topic, but I notice from your signature that you use Windows XP, and yet you have 16gb RAM. I'm no expert on this subject, so forgive me when I say that Windows XP can only see 3gb RAM.
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Re:Omnisphere dropout with Sonar X1b
2012/07/06 16:48:14
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ur forgiven, what about XP 64-bit?
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Re:Omnisphere dropout with Sonar X1b
2012/07/06 17:03:34
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ur forgiven, what about XP 64-bit?
Erm.. I'll get me coat 
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Re:Omnisphere dropout with Sonar X1b
2012/07/06 17:56:30
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Omnisphere should work fine live inside SONAR, as long as it's the only thing in it (e.g. no heavweight effects). But if was me I'd prefer a lightweight VST host such as SAVIHost for stage use.
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Re:Omnisphere dropout with Sonar X1b
2012/07/06 19:47:53
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Slightly off topic, but I notice from your signature that you use Windows XP, and yet you have 16gb RAM. I'm no expert on this subject, so forgive me when I say that Windows XP can only see 3gb RAM.
true but my machine had Win7 64bit originally. i prefer xp
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Re:Omnisphere dropout with Sonar X1b
2012/07/06 20:41:26
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I don't have Omnisphere, but I can't even get Rapture x64 to play without dropouts in X1e Expanded. Some of my Rapture programs play 4 elements simultaneously with long decays with a phaser as the global effect, and when playing prpograms like these, I observe a few dropouts (in the Lynx mixer) every hour. My PC has 8 cores, and the CPU use in Sonar barely registers. In contrast, my other SW synthesizers don't exhibit this problem: Alchemy (64-bit) Korg Legacy synthesizers (32-bit via Jbridge) LinnPlug RMV (64-bit)
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Re:Omnisphere dropout with Sonar X1b
2012/07/07 04:27:28
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synkrotron
Slightly off topic, but I notice from your signature that you use Windows XP, and yet you have 16gb RAM. I'm no expert on this subject, so forgive me when I say that Windows XP can only see 3gb RAM.
true but my machine had Win7 64bit originally. i prefer xp
That anyone wants to downgrade to XP or XP64 are beyond my comprehension?  It seem very confused that you feel that's working better for you? I'm sorry if we get off on the wrong foot my friend. Just so you know, any of these programs aren't officially supported of XP64. Some doesn't support XP32 either. I have PM you!
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Re:Omnisphere dropout with Sonar X1b
2012/07/07 18:41:02
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Will be ever see Omnisphere for $99?
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Re:Omnisphere dropout with Sonar X1b
2012/07/07 19:41:42
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Its too pricey for my budget right now I have quite a few I'm looking to get before I get omnisphere. I will be getting VB3, opxproII, GForce: minimonsta & MTRON, Korg legacy synths then some East West and Native Instrument komplete. Omnisphere is good but those have what I need and are higher priority for the kind of music I do.
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2012/07/09 13:29:36
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2012/07/09 13:34:01
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Re:Omnisphere dropout with Sonar X1b
2012/07/09 13:53:22
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wow thanks FH. will look into this.....
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