Composing in P5, and then mastering audio in Sonar

cryophonik


You do realize that Project5 was discontinued over 3 years ago, right?  This used to be a thriving community, but most P5 users have moved on to something else after CW announced its demise, and this forum has pretty much become a ghost town ever since.

Anyway, you might want to look into ReWiring P5 into Sonar.  That's probably the most flexible approach.

AT


You can rewire p5 into sonar.  Start a song in p5, put that into sonar via rewire.  The entire song in P5 plays along w/ SONAR.  I used to freeze the synths into audio and import or drag the audio into SONAR.

Sonar, of course, is much better (and has more effects) at audio and mixing.  Record any acoustic stuff and away you go using SONAR as your main software.  Once you get to know sonar you'll find you can do a lot of what you do in P5 in SONAR itself, if you want.  It ain't as easy or intuitive, but you can still get the same sort of music out.

And yea, nobody post here anymore, though I guess me and cryo still check up.  And Chad, I believe.  Feel free to post - someone will come along.

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AT


No, rewire syncs the two softwares - P5 plays w/in SONAR.  My (and other's) technique was to compose in P5 rewired to SONAR and then import the audio for further maipulation.  You could archive your synths but have them readily available to edit.   Freezing a synth means to turn it into audio so it doesn't drain your cpu.  Not such a big thing anymore, but think of it as bouncing a clip down to audio w/ alll your effects printed.  And it is simple to unfreeze it - simple click of the old button.  P5 introduced the feature to Cakewalk DAWs, I believe.

I didn't talk about composing in SONAR except to say I do - it has many of the features of P5, plus a better render engine.  That is good, if you care about the quality of your sound.  One of the reasons I switched primarily to SONAR.  I do agree that P5 is a great workflow, tho, expecially for loop based pattern music.  However, many people do record audio.   Sorry if my attempt to help offended you.

Mixing is more than adjusting your volumes.   Many times I switch over to Sound Forge.  It is easy in SONAR to open and send audio to SF and import it back.  Sonar has a greater array of effects, which you have to buy separate in P5.  More sends.  The list goes on. 

Anybody who peeks in at this forum has probably been using P5 since before it was dropped by Cakewalk.  While it is great to see new people get excited, it is a little cheeky to get lectured about how great it is by someone who doesn't know basics like rewire and freezing.

Good luck and have fun.

AT


Cool.

P5 was originally a soft synth player.  P5 V2 opened the software up as another DAW.  It added midi out, audio in and Dimension as Cake's premier soft synth.

I imagine what happened is rather than bringing in a new customer base for Cakewalk, P5 mostly cannibalized existing Cake users - despite good reviews (including yours truly).  Most loopers stayed or went w/ Live, which was there first, just like Protools.  Cakewalk determined they couldn't make enough money to justify updating P5, so they started migrating some of its functions to SONAR.  Which was a shame - the code for P5 was new and would have made a good basis for X1.  Some of the problems w/ SONAR, like stuttering, would be a thing of the past.  But that is all ancient history now, in DAW terms.  and users like new functions and toys, so many have moved on.

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