If I have a synth, that has a sequencer, and can send midi out, how do I send midi to anot

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2012/07/10 02:39:33 (permalink)

If I have a synth, that has a sequencer, and can send midi out, how do I send midi to anot

how do I send midi too another synth?


so if my synth is sugar bytes consequence, and its basically a cool arp, how can I send its midi to rapture?


both synths are in their own folder tracks...   sonar x1 


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    Chregg
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    Re:If I have a synth, that has a sequencer, and can send midi out, how do I send midi to a 2012/07/10 05:21:52 (permalink)
    what you'll have to do is look at consequence's midi out put set up and see if it can be routed to another midi track within sonar, if that fails, then you could try and see if con sequence can export its arp/seq pattern as a midi file and load that into an instrument track with rapture, if that fails, then you you'd have to manually copy the seq/arp note by note into the prv on the track with rapture
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    Re:If I have a synth, that has a sequencer, and can send midi out, how do I send midi to a 2012/07/10 06:20:10 (permalink)
    Got it..

    Hey..  I thought you could drag and drop midi, into Z3ta's 2 arp box...  isn't that right?  for some odd reason, it doesn't want to stick..  am I right though?  or no?


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    Re:If I have a synth, that has a sequencer, and can send midi out, how do I send midi to a 2012/07/10 07:55:37 (permalink)
    you could simply clone the midi track and source the clone to the second synth.

    to me that make way more sense than using some convoluted routing method...... so much easier too. 

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    Re:If I have a synth, that has a sequencer, and can send midi out, how do I send midi to a 2012/07/10 08:49:52 (permalink)
    Herb it is not as simple as that. Consequence is a VST synth and it has its own built in sequencer/arpeggiator etc. The midi part you are referring to is only what is controlling the arp for example. Linear Phase wants to capture the performance after the arp.

    I see on the website that there is a midi OUT feature listed in its features. According to this you can use this to control other synths etc. But you will have to look into how to set that up etc..

    Have you updated to the latest version which is currently 1.5.1. This I believe this version is 64 bit but also has midi export capabilities which I gather generates a midi file that you can export and import back into your DAW etc 

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    Re:If I have a synth, that has a sequencer, and can send midi out, how do I send midi to a 2012/07/10 09:51:06 (permalink)
    i went to the web site to check it as well, it comes across more for sending midi to external devices, which mean it has to be out putted from consequence via its own routing, which means the midi would have to be inputted to a midi track in sonar through one of the midi ports i.e pcr 2 or what ever, how thats configured , even if possible, god knows, but its worth checking to see if the synth can export its sequencer pattern as a midi file
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    Re:If I have a synth, that has a sequencer, and can send midi out, how do I send midi to a 2012/07/10 10:53:32 (permalink)
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    Have you updated to the latest version which is currently 1.5.1. This I believe this version is 64 bit but also has midi export capabilities which I gather generates a midi file that you can export and import back into your DAW etc 

    yep...  latest version 1.5.1  and I found the drag and drop midi pattern in the top right hand corner.  that works really well...  except..  if I was able to send the midi out directly, than I could tweak the two ( consequence, and rapture ) in real time.

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    Re:If I have a synth, that has a sequencer, and can send midi out, how do I send midi to a 2012/07/10 10:56:44 (permalink)
    Chregg


     but its worth checking to see if the synth can export its sequencer pattern as a midi file

    it does, I was able to figure it out last night.   um, the closest thing to consequence, would be the animator on the FXpansion Synth Squad...  those I don't own...   but when you are tweaking it in real time...  :-)  its like totally different.




    In Ableton Live it worked too easily.  Put Consequence on one track, and Rapture on another, and rout the midi from the Consequence track to Rapture.   In Renoise, this isn't possible...   In Sonar, I was kinda hoping to do it...  I'm pretty sure it can be done


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    Re:If I have a synth, that has a sequencer, and can send midi out, how do I send midi to a 2012/07/10 11:06:41 (permalink)
    I use to take the arps out of my yamaha keyboard and use them in cubase.

    To get the stuff into the DAW correctly you have to send midi clock to the synth and have it setup as a slave. ( or the other way around)

    Then when you hit play in sonar they both would play and you can record and it will fit in the measures properly.

    I use an 8 port usb midi interface, make it possible to do anything you can think up.


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    Re:If I have a synth, that has a sequencer, and can send midi out, how do I send midi to a 2012/07/10 11:13:34 (permalink)
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    I use to take the arps out of my yamaha keyboard and use them in cubase.

    To get the stuff into the DAW correctly you have to send midi clock to the synth and have it setup as a slave. ( or the other way around)

    Then when you hit play in sonar they both would play and you can record and it will fit in the measures properly.

    I use an 8 port usb midi interface, make it possible to do anything you can think up.

    I think that's exactly how it works.  and I could theoretically use Consequence in stand-alone mode, and than use Loopbe, and send it into Sonar on the Rapture Track...


    ( Loopbe is a virtual midi port.  )


    But..  I was really hoping there was a way to load Consequence in VST Plugin Mode..  and Send its output to a Rapture Track.   Only because..  When everything is plugged in, its a little less window flipping...


    I'm doing a lot of Rewire too.  Making my projects very confusing at current moment.  Having Rewire, and Sonar, and Renoise, and Loopbe, and Consequence Stand Alone... Enough to confuse me but good.   But I guess I will have to trek through it...  :-)




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    Re:If I have a synth, that has a sequencer, and can send midi out, how do I send midi to a 2012/07/10 12:38:43 (permalink)
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    how do I send midi too another synth?


    so if my synth is sugar bytes consequence, and its basically a cool arp, how can I send its midi to rapture?


    both synths are in their own folder tracks...   sonar x1 


    cheers

    Not at my DAW and don't have Consequence. However I do something similar with other plugs. I would try this. Confirm that Consequence is set up as a SYNTH (plug properties), I would open an instance of Rapture as a Simple Instrument, then in the FX bin, right click and open Consequence. Load an arp pattern in Consequence and load a patch in Rapture, and I am guessing you will have to run the transport to get Rapture to sync to the host tempo. Might take some playing with respective settings to get it to work.




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    Re:If I have a synth, that has a sequencer, and can send midi out, how do I send midi to a 2012/07/10 14:46:54 (permalink)
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    Not at my DAW and don't have Consequence. However I do something similar with other plugs. I would try this. Confirm that Consequence is set up as a SYNTH (plug properties), I would open an instance of Rapture as a Simple Instrument, then in the FX bin, right click and open Consequence. Load an arp pattern in Consequence and load a patch in Rapture, and I am guessing you will have to run the transport to get Rapture to sync to the host tempo. Might take some playing with respective settings to get it to work.

    No go..  Thank you though.  I just get complete silence ( when consequence is on its initialize patch, ) or sound ( when I load a consequence oscillator/instrument/element whatever we shall be calling it today )


    :-)


    I tried as both a synth, and tempo based fx ( vst plug in properties.  ) and rapture had element 1 loaded with a square...




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    Re:If I have a synth, that has a sequencer, and can send midi out, how do I send midi to a 2012/07/10 17:12:45 (permalink)
    Starting with an empty project... 1. Insert Rapture synth as normal so you get an audio track and a midi track, and in Rapture choose a program. 2. Insert Consequence as a synth - important: on Insert Soft Synth Options window check Enable MIDI Output - also check MIDI Source and First Synth Audio Output (you may not need these, but I don't have experience of using Consequence myself). 3. In the track window make sure little drop down at the top shows I/O or All so you can assign the i/o routing. 4. On the Rapture MIDI track the Input= drop down should show Consequence as one of the selectable inputs. Choose it and assign MIDI Omni. 5. On the Rapture MIDI track select Input Echo: On (if you forget to do this the track will only route the MIDI when it is the current selected track). 6. Consequence must have on its interface some sort of Play button. Set it running so it is generating MIDI output. 7. In the track window you should see MIDI arriving in the Rapture MIDI track and, hopefully!, Rapture should be making a sound. That is the basic setup for routing MIDI out from one synth to another. You can refine it by selecting a specific channel so you don't get the MIDI mixed up with other synths in the project. Arm the Rapture MIDI track and record as normal to capture the MIDI output from Consequence. As I said above, I have not actually used Consequence so I'm guessing here. You may be able to control it through its own MIDI input track (that is how you could synchronize it to your project). You may also find that you don't need an audio output track. However, it may use that to time its MIDI output events, in which case deleting the track will stop it working. Hope this is helpful... (sorry if this is all bunched up together, I don't know why the editor is losing my formatting)
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    Re:If I have a synth, that has a sequencer, and can send midi out, how do I send midi to a 2012/07/10 17:26:02 (permalink)
    Awesome; thank you, I think that is it!  I will totally try later when I get a chance..

    Thank you




    Edit = works perfectly.  Thanks again MandelDrum

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    Re:If I have a synth, that has a sequencer, and can send midi out, how do I send midi to a 2012/07/13 16:45:30 (permalink)
    Made a web-page: How To Route Midi Between VSTi Plug-Ins http://www.mandelbrotdrummer.com/MidiOutVSTi.html
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