Question on using different busses

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2012/07/18 16:28:57 (permalink)

Question on using different busses

I've used different busses on occasion but don't REALLY know why... I've read that using different busses for combining effects to save on CPU is done but are there other reasons to set up different busses? I really don't have a problem with my Quadcore so what I'm interested in is are there advantages to using any other busses besides the master bus that I always use? (maybe one of you can give me a couple examples...maybe, kinda, sorta'?) I've been using Cakewalk for quite a few years now starting with 4 and now I'm playin' with the big kids and have hardly scratched the surface... Been a member in here for awhile too and you guys and gals have taught me alot... Can ya' teach me some more?

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    Re:Question on using different busses 2012/07/18 16:38:28 (permalink)
    I use them for grouping instruments. Drums for example are a natural for a buss of their own.  

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    Re:Question on using different busses 2012/07/18 16:42:38 (permalink)
    Some examples:
    • Usually send all your tracks to the Master bus.  This is where you control your overall volume/output.
    • You can set up a bus for an effect like reverb.  Each track that needs reverb is still output to the Master bus, but it also has a send that goes to the reverb bus.  (This is like a Send/Return on a traditional mixing console.)  This way your CPU only has to deal with one instance of reverb.  Even if you have lots of CPU power, though, a reverb bus makes it easy to have a consistent reverb sound.  It can be weird sounding if one singer is in a cathedral and one is in a small rehearsal hall.  You can also control the overall reverb level in your project more easily, or change the room size or delay time in one place instead of 20 places.  Note, however, that there is nothing wrong with putting separate reverbs on several or all tracks if you want to tweak the reverb for each track.
    • I sometimes set up a vocal reverb bus and an instrument reverb bus.  Although this technically violates the rule about everyone being in the same space, sometimes vocals, to me, need different reverbs than instruments.  (I use way less reverb than many people so it will be interesting to hear what others say.)
    • You can also use a bus to simplify mixing several tracks.  Example: You have a lot of harmony parts.  Instead of routing them to Master, route them to a bus called Harmonies and route that bus to Master.  Mix them individually the way you want and then use the fader on the Harmonies bus to mix in the overall amount of harmonies you want.  During your final mix, if you decide the harmonies sound great but are all a little too loud or quiet, you don't have to go mess with 12 faders and hope you moved them all the same amount.  This also works for drums or other things you want to group.  I just had a recent thread on Grouping that talks about this more.
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    Re:Question on using different busses 2012/07/18 16:57:45 (permalink)
    In addition to the above suggestions, it sometimes pays also for a bussed group of tracks to hjave a similar plugin inserted on the bus.

    This can be a compressor (remember we talk about applying multi-stage compression? Well having buss compression is another one of those stages)

    An Eq - sometimes it can benefit to treat an entire group of tracks having a certain part of their frequency range ever so slightly boosted or attenuated. 

    Time domain Fx like chorusing & flanging - the logical alternative to this is to apply the relevant plug in to each of the tracks you're thinking of bussing - but if there's any part of their algorithms which involve randmonisation, the combined effect of several of these plugs all sweeping at different rates/frequencies may not be what you want. It can sound pretty awful. Bussing the tracks and using a single instance of a time domain plug totally overcomes this obstacle, and is less cpu intensive as well.

    There are many other uses for busses, but these should get you thinking

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    Re:Question on using different busses 2012/07/18 17:11:21 (permalink)
    Great suggestions all. I also use buses to mute/solo different instrument/vocal groups during editing and mixing. Volume envelopes is another bus application that I use.

    I've even mixed with buses as opposed to mixing with tracks. 

    Many, many different possibilities.

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    Re:Question on using different busses 2012/07/18 18:50:40 (permalink)
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    Re:Question on using different busses 2012/07/18 19:37:22 (permalink)
    Buses are good for mixing an effect with the dry signal, like in parallel compression (AKA: NY Compression)

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