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2012/07/26 12:09:48 (permalink)

Roland TTS-1 and 96khz?

Hey!

TTS-1 sounds awful under 96khz 24bit with my Roland Quad Capture card. Anyone know why? Sounds distorted and all.

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Re:Roland TTS-1 and 96khz? 2012/07/29 14:59:50 (permalink)
 I had that, too. I think Roland TTS doesn't run at 96 kHz. I found information confirming that "TTS-1 DXi Does Not Support 88.2 kHz Sample Rate", but as it also wouldn't work at 96 kHz for me, I just supposed it only works at 44.1 and 48 kHz. Some info on the web and in this forum seemed to run into a dead end about getting TTS to sound good at 96 kHz, so I can't state for sure that you can't get it to work - I just gave up. Most people recommend working at 44.1 or 48 kHz in 24 bit anyway, so I gave up with 96 kHz.

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Re:Roland TTS-1 and 96khz? 2012/07/30 17:16:25 (permalink)
TTS is a good sounding synth but there is no need to use 96khz.... drop back to 44.1khz and try it. 


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Re:Roland TTS-1 and 96khz? 2018/05/23 16:41:55 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby fresh101 2018/08/18 16:47:40
Read this post and it will resolve the TTS-1 issue as a workaround.
Link:http://forum.cakewalk.com/TTS1-quotLight-Load-Modequot-m3282331.aspx
Open TTS-1. On the panel select System/System Settings - Option/Options/Check 'Light Load Mode'.
This allows 96Khz to work perfectly by reducing the TTS-1 load on the CPU.
DXI are known for this. Press the GM2 button frequently when the TTS-1 doesn't sound correctly.
This reinitializes the GM2 sysx command. Have fun. Best wishes.
 
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post edited by David R. - 2018/08/28 08:24:05
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Re:Roland TTS-1 and 96khz? 2018/05/23 16:49:26 (permalink)
Please double check the thread date before posting. This thread is almost 8 years old.
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Re:Roland TTS-1 and 96khz? 2018/08/17 21:48:52 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby fresh101 2018/08/18 16:48:54
Hi scook,
 
Are you aware that now in 2018 Cakewalk users are still having the TTS-1 96Khz distortion issue.
Sonar Platinum by BL contains TTS-1. The tech people at Cakewalk previously disregarded the matter.
The age of a thread is irrelevant to you and I when the issue has not been resolved.
Here's why: The 'Light Load Mode' is a workaround, not a fix. The fix requires a dll editor to write the
setting into the TTS-1 dll. A dll editor cost more money and altering the TTS-1 dll could void your Cakewalk license.
Therefore the matter is current and the thread is current in 2018. Perhaps BL can provide a fix for the TTS-1.
 
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Re:Roland TTS-1 and 96khz? 2018/08/18 15:48:28 (permalink)
When will this get replaced with more modern sounds?
 
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Re:Roland TTS-1 and 96khz? 2018/08/18 16:41:26 (permalink)
Maybe it is time to put to sleep TTS-1 synth and replace it with a modern GM2 compatible synth that will support user SF2 banks or similar? It is 14 years old. 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re:Roland TTS-1 and 96khz? 2018/08/18 17:22:18 (permalink)
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When will this get replaced with more modern sounds?



What do you mean by "modern"?  The GM format dictates what instruments they are, so do you mean cleaner-sounding?  More realistic?  If you're looking for "top of the charts" or synth-type sounds, you won't find them in a GM module.
 
The challenge here is that TTS-1 is a free GM instrument and for its intended purpose, it works just fine for most users (other than the 96khz issue).  If you're looking for something better, there's always Halion Sonic, Sampletank. AIR Structure, Korg Legacy Collection, etc.
 
Of course, if you leave rompler territory and look at specialty libraries, there are much more realistic and expensive options.
 
I'm not knocking your suggestion.  I just don't see how realistic it is to expect Bandcamp to license or record a new sample set for a free GM module. 

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Re:Roland TTS-1 and 96khz? 2018/08/18 18:07:22 (permalink)
JonD can you please explain  "you won't find them in a GM module." part... I am a bit confused here. My understanding is, regardless of GM rules your synth will sound as good as your samples are (for the most part).  I do not believe the software on your list is fully GM compatible. If I remember correctly, none of them have GM bank chage option. 
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Re:Roland TTS-1 and 96khz? 2018/08/18 21:30:28 (permalink)
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JonD can you please explain  "you won't find them in a GM module." part... I am a bit confused here. My understanding is, regardless of GM rules your synth will sound as good as your samples are (for the most part).  I do not believe the software on your list is fully GM compatible. If I remember correctly, none of them have GM bank chage option.



My only point was that GM-modules (sound canvas and the like) can't compare in quality and realism with the better-sounding romplers like Halion Sonic, etc.  Some romplers do allow for bank customizing and mapping for GM/live performance.  For example, I believe Halion Sonic can do it fairly easily, while Sampletank and Korg M1 both offer a GM soundset.
 
That said, you are correct -- generally speaking romplers are no direct substitute for GM modules if you need the GM format.  Also, while I think it's probably too cost-prohibitive to improve the TTS-1 soundsets, I think your idea about allowing user sfz/sf2 banks would be the next best thing. That, with a few needed fixes and graphic tweaks and I'd be happy with it (TTS-2?).

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Re:Roland TTS-1 and 96khz? 2018/08/18 22:15:41 (permalink)
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allowing user sfz/sf2 banks would be the next best thing. That, with a few needed fixes and graphic tweaks and I'd be happy with it (TTS-2?).


100% with you on this! There are many nice GM SF2 banks available and some great stuff in individual instruments free or at very reasonable price. That should give flexibility to someone who needs GM and just tired of hearing same set of sounds for over a decade and a half:) 
 
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