Help me with returns.. plz

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2012/07/26 22:33:19 (permalink)

Help me with returns.. plz

Ok.. so..  sends = no problem.  But I'm having trouble with returns..  can somebody please explain, or link a blog post about how to use a return specifically in Sonar X1..  :-)

Cause I saw it in the Craig Anderton vids, but it was too fast for me.  Plus..  Renoise doesn't do this, so I have no practice with it, as I'm basically coming to Sonar with a Renoise - Ableton experience..  A little Cubase when I was learning, but its been years, since I've done returns, and I should have these down...

So..  Hows it done?

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    SToons
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    Re:Help me with returns.. plz 2012/07/27 00:42:03 (permalink)
    Normally I avoid these questions as I don`t have X1 and certain things have clearly changed. But since no one else has answered yet...typically the Send is assigned to a Bus which becomes the Return. Assign the Send to an unused Bus; if you have to insert a new Bus do so. Now anytime you use the Send on a track that audio will pass thru to the Bus which is functioning as the Return. Often the Bus will be referred to as an Aux Bus ie. Send 1 goes to Aux 1, Send 2 goes to Aux 2 (a seperate Bus) although this is not fixed in stone, you can call the Bus(ses) whatever you like.
     
    A simple example would be to Insert Reverb into the FX Bin of the Aux Bus that you have assigned the Send to. Now you can send multiple tracks thru the single effect and control how much effect is applied to the individual track thru the Send control
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    Re:Help me with returns.. plz 2012/07/27 01:08:33 (permalink)
    Stoons pretty much nailed it. Put simply, the return signal is the signal coming out of the bus. Use the fader to adjust it in the mix, route it to another bus if needed.

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    Re:Help me with returns.. plz 2012/07/27 01:59:26 (permalink)
    You can "send" a signal out to a hardware reverb and have the processed signal "return" to the mix.
     
    Same for a software reverb or other plugin.

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    Re:Help me with returns.. plz 2012/07/27 02:12:19 (permalink)
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    Normally I avoid these questions as I don`t have X1 and certain things have clearly changed. But since no one else has answered yet...typically the Send is assigned to a Bus which becomes the Return. Assign the Send to an unused Bus; if you have to insert a new Bus do so. Now anytime you use the Send on a track that audio will pass thru to the Bus which is functioning as the Return. Often the Bus will be referred to as an Aux Bus ie. Send 1 goes to Aux 1, Send 2 goes to Aux 2 (a seperate Bus) although this is not fixed in stone, you can call the Bus(ses) whatever you like.
     
    A simple example would be to Insert Reverb into the FX Bin of the Aux Bus that you have assigned the Send to. Now you can send multiple tracks thru the single effect and control how much effect is applied to the individual track thru the Send control

    Thanks SToons, crystal clear now..  Totally radical, and much appreciated

    :-)

    @ perfectprint

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    @ A1MixMan

    Thanks

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    Re:Help me with returns.. plz 2012/07/27 04:52:46 (permalink)
    It's also important to remember that whenever you inset a send to a bus/aux/return - call it what you want - you are now dealing with a copy of your signal.

    So the track will end up in your master bus twice - once via the send and once direct (via it's output assignment).


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    Re:Help me with returns.. plz 2012/07/27 05:15:52 (permalink)
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    It's also important to remember that whenever you inset a send to a bus/aux/return - call it what you want - you are now dealing with a copy of your signal.

    So the track will end up in your master bus twice - once via the send and once direct (via it's output assignment).

    that does seem rather important...  noted.  thank you Bristol_Jonesey

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