What is the best ProChannel order of sequence?

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2012/07/28 01:31:59 (permalink)

What is the best ProChannel order of sequence?

ProChannel before effects or effects before ProChannel? And if a mastering plugin is used, should that be the last in the chain or should it be the very first? Does any of this make a difference at all, especially in sound or is it all just preference?
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    bladetragic
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    Re:What is the best ProChannel order of sequence? 2012/07/28 02:20:42 (permalink)
    It is all preference and based on whatever the material calls for really. As far as mastering, the only current PC module that I can think of that may come last in a mastering chain would be the concrete limiter if you are using it as your mastering limiter. Maybe. Depends on what you mean by "mastering plug" actually.
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    Re:What is the best ProChannel order of sequence? 2012/07/28 06:00:01 (permalink)
    This was posted on the Cakewalk blog, and posted by Cakewalk on Facebook.   http://blog.cakewalk.com/an-audio-journey-through-the-signal-path-in-sonar-x1/

    "Mastering."  I believe there are two types.  A. Professional true audio mastering. B. What I have affectionately been calling, "home grown, or home brew," mastering.

    The differences are beyond the scope of the thread...  but, "if a mastering plug is used" than you should have the Pro-Channel Post FX bin, and use the Concrete Limiter last.  IMHO, for home brew mastering, the Pro-Channel EQ is a great choice.  Although, I've been using the LP64.

    Now, let's put the mastering conversation aside for a second...  The order of modules on the Pro-Channel changes depending on what the material is calling for.  There is no, "one correct way."  Read the Cakewalk blog post, know the audio journey through Sonar..




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    Re:What is the best ProChannel order of sequence? 2012/07/28 06:01:58 (permalink)


    bladetragic


    It is all preference and based on whatever the material calls for really. As far as mastering, the only current PC module that I can think of that may come last in a mastering chain would be the concrete limiter if you are using it as your mastering limiter. Maybe. Depends on what you mean by "mastering plug" actually. 
    I actually, I kinda said, exactly what you said..  :-)  but honestly, that PC Eq is going to work well with, "home brew mastering," why wouldn't it?
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    Re:What is the best ProChannel order of sequence? 2012/07/28 11:07:25 (permalink)
    There is no best chain - that depends upon what you are trying to accomplish.  The standard method is how the PC is presented - compressor followed EQ.  The FX bin is dependent upon what you are using in in - most of the time w/ reverb/delay it would be post PC so you can effect the already shaped sound.

    Mastering, by defination, would be last and only on your output bus, tho putting a limiter  last a channel or bus chain is done if you need to slam the level of same.

    I'm of two minds as far as having a master effect during mixing.  On the SSL console the mix bus comes w/ it and is often used for the sound/glue or word of the day.  The PC SSL comp can do the same thing.  And even a limiter on the output bus can alter the relationship of sounds in your mix.  Many mixers build that fact into their mix, but it takes experience.  What I usually do is have the ssl comp chosen but disabled on the output bus during mixing.  That way I get the best and hottest mix I can au naturel, then switch the comp on to see how much change it squeezes out. 

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