tunekicker
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Sonar X2 Pricing
I know there are some here that will complain about the price of upgrading to X2 no matter what the price is. Figured I would put things in perspective. I own the full version of Pro Tools 9 and it would cost me $299 to UPGRADE to Pro Tools 10. That's not the "buy it new" price, that's the upgrade. I haven't done so because I am not working closely with folks using 10, use Sonar to mix whenever I can, and think $299 is a ridiculous price for this kind of application for an upgrade. http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PT10PT9up?utm_source=none&utm_medium=PPC&utm_campaign=none&gclid=CNGHqrSgybECFYUaQgodsnkAxw X2 actually looks like a better overhaul of existing functionality, addition of new features, and fix of bugs, so I'm far more interested in X2 than PT 10 anyway. I had to laugh when I heard people RAVING about the new Clip gain in PT 10- something other DAWS like Sonar, Cubase, etc. have had for more than a decade. Peace, Tunes
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MelodicJimmy
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Re:Sonar X2 Pricing
2012/08/02 11:35:56
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I would complain if it's like .... $400 or something.... THAT would be absurd. But, Cakewalk has been really fair..... I can't see them trying to rape us for cash. I would imagine it'll be between 200-300.... just a guess. That's fair, in my opinion, for an upgrade....
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Rasure
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Re:Sonar X2 Pricing
2012/08/02 11:39:38
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Well I hope a decent pricing will include us expanded users :-) Since from what I can gather expanded is no longer a separate thing.
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djwayne
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Re:Sonar X2 Pricing
2012/08/02 11:39:56
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Well X2 isn't really a major upgrade or a complete re-build so I'm not expecting it to be too high priced.
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LANEY
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Re:Sonar X2 Pricing
2012/08/02 11:40:22
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If it is over $99 I am out, until they sweeten the deal. Just my opinion.
Shouldn't be more than that to improve on X1.
These prices are all speculation and I am sure they will have a great deal for us.
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Bristol_Jonesey
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Re:Sonar X2 Pricing
2012/08/02 11:56:25
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If X2 includes all the features of Expanded, so that the entire range is narrowed down to just Producer, Stdio & Expanded, then it's logical to assume there will be different pricing options depending on what you already have
e.g. $99 for Expanded customers, $149 for Producer, something along those lines
I'm guessing that any of the optional PC modules which you might have purcahsed will have to be installed separately, by the user, post-install as there's no way on earth they could work out a pricing strategy for the large number of possible combinations.
Just my thoughts.
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Re:Sonar X2 Pricing
2012/08/02 12:03:17
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PRICE - it doesn't really matter now, does it? Thousands of us... (maybe millions!) will, indeed upgrade. The few who flatly deny it based on price alone will sooner or later cave or live happily with what they currently own. I, for one, will hope for a fair price. My purchase history here is embarassingly long What makes it worth it is the customer service policy in tech support. Those folks must be hand picked for dedication, courtesy, concern ... the list goes on... SO... HAVE MERCY on us Roland... you don't need a whole hog when you can get half an elephant... just don't pull on our trunks too hard. I will now put the upgrade out of my mind. I can't wait...
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stevec
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Re:Sonar X2 Pricing
2012/08/02 12:05:17
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If X2 includes all the features of Expanded, so that the entire range is narrowed down to just Producer, Stdio & Expanded, then it's logical to assume there will be different pricing options depending on what you already have That seems logical, very fair, and something that CW would typically do.
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e.Blue
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Re:Sonar X2 Pricing
2012/08/02 12:13:19
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Cakewalk has always been fair in regards to upgrade pricing. I don't think that there is any reason to expect that to change.
I also agree about the PT9-->PT10 $300 money grab that mainly constituted a bunch of 'features' that should have been free or no one really needed. (channel strip plugin?, AAX?) Those improvements are things that Cakewalk would have included in a free update.
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bapu
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Re:Sonar X2 Pricing
2012/08/02 12:37:44
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I'll pay not a penny (or ha'penny for the UKers) over $1,000,000.00.
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cclarry
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Re:Sonar X2 Pricing
2012/08/02 12:52:27
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Well, here's my guess...for what it's worth...
Expanded Users $ 99
Producer $149
Studio $249
Essential $349
Let's see if I win a Cuepy doll!!
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Rasure
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Re:Sonar X2 Pricing
2012/08/02 14:42:40
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Bristol_Jonesey
e.g. $99 for Expanded customers, $149 for Producer, something along those lines
That would be reasonable :-)
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rtucker55
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Re:Sonar X2 Pricing
2012/08/02 15:08:45
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I'm still not sure why they have gone back to the inclusion of other modules such as r-mix and amp sims, ect. I don't see what it actually brings to Sonar the DAW.
We went through all that crap prior to the intro of, I think, Sonar 8.0. Everyone was complaining they did not want the extra crap and extra cost so Cake did something that I thought was a really great compromise. They offered of a series of upgrades that included Sonar 8.0 but also had packages, with some really great prices, that included full versions of notation software or piano vst's, ect. There were several different packages. The user actually had the option of purchasing the things that were important to them and their particular DAW use.
I have spent a lot of money over the last year of upgrading to expanded, buying PC modules etc. I really don't want to pay more money for things I don't really need or want like another amp sim...
Hopefully the upgrade prices will be so great that it won't matter but we won't know that for a while, probably late September or sometime after.
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LJB
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Re:Sonar X2 Pricing
2012/08/02 15:20:29
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Let's all go make music till we actually know something about X2 :O)
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A1MixMan
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Re:Sonar X2 Pricing
2012/08/02 15:24:24
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While I don't want to pay too much, it doesn't really matter to me. Sonar is becoming such a great program for me that I will gladly pay whatever the rate is. I just want it to work right. I am very pleased with how Cakewalk slowed down the product cycle and really worked out alot of the problems. Remember, this upgrade should really be X3.
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Re:Sonar X2 Pricing
2012/08/02 16:16:51
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Here, here, LJB. A bit of speculation is fun, but it is easy to get carried away.
And yes, it looks like Expanded is included in Pro now, which is what I said all along. for those that paid for it, there should be a price knock-off, tho I bet Cake will run a special on the SSL Channel strip w/ all the included modules (extra, not included) at some point.
Anyway, if you are worried about pricing I suggest you go back to earlier versions and see what Cake charged, taking into account the time between updates. This one is almost two years in the making.
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cclarry
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Re:Sonar X2 Pricing
2012/08/02 16:42:49
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I believe that Cake, like the Auto Industry, has gone to a
2 year marketing cycle plan....
Which is not a bad idea...IMHO
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Re:Sonar X2 Pricing
2012/08/02 19:57:21
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well a certain German rival doesn't ask for a yearly fee and go with the 2 year thing. so it's not too bad.. BUT them switching to august time is a bit of a header, everyone else put stuff out at that time.
I use a few things , and well all of these companies in theses times REALLY have to justify their upgrade costs.
I wanna hear from folk like Noel NOT the marketing folk (and that goes for other companies also) .. the classic line being (and this goes for a VAST amount of pro audio companies) it includes "amazing thing" and in the small print SE or LE version..
yet another product entered the pro-audio arena of late.. so that'll mix things up no doubt.
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SteveStrummerUK
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Re:Sonar X2 Pricing
2012/08/02 20:02:25
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djwayne
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Re:Sonar X2 Pricing
2012/08/02 20:26:36
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Well the truth is, there's a lot of competition out there for music recording software. So a high price will definitely drive away sales to the lower price options. A fair price though will retain customers and may even add some new ones. Sonar is a very high quality product, and Cakewalk has a long history of supplying reasonably priced software which is great bang for the buck. So I'm not too concerned, but I am curious to what the prices will be.
Bring it on, sooner the better !!!
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