New Sonar, Old Plug-ins

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2012/08/10 11:51:15 (permalink)

New Sonar, Old Plug-ins


After a few years of having all my gear in dry dock, I'm back, baby.  Upgraded to Sonar X1 PS, and have added a few plug-ins.  
My question is--on my bookshelf are my old versions of Soundsoap2, Antares products (Kantos, Autotune, etc.) Is anyone familiar with or have thoughts about introducing these into the newer Sonar environment?    
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    ohgrant
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    Re:New Sonar, Old Plug-ins 2012/08/10 12:06:50 (permalink)
     You will need to add the locations to where they are stored. Go to Edit>Preferences>down to VST Settings> click the Add button and add the location where the VST is and rescan. Hope that helps

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    Re:New Sonar, Old Plug-ins 2012/08/10 12:30:39 (permalink)
    I would be a little wary of the Antares programs until you know your are up to date with the Pace protection drivers.

    I crossed a threshold with Autotune years back when doing an O/S upgrade and I was null and void as far as Autotune was concerned.  

    If you install them, I would make sure you have system restore engaged and save some restore points as you go.

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    Re:New Sonar, Old Plug-ins 2012/08/10 12:41:19 (permalink)
    Kantos still works just fine, I don't use the others you specifically mentioned. As a rule, you can scan VSTs and they will likely work. If you are running the x64 version of Sonar you'll need a bridge to access older (read x86) plug-ins, there is one integrated into Sonar, and there is J-Bridge, doesn't seem to be a clear winner, one works better for some plugs, the other for others. DirectX plug-ins are a different matter - you need to register them using regserver, and then it's a crap shoot. There is a wrapper (search for XUL, DX to VST) that works with many DX plug-ins. Fortunately for me, I have only a handful of DX plug-ins I'm really going to miss... but even at that it will require some leg work!

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    Re:New Sonar, Old Plug-ins 2012/08/11 19:34:08 (permalink)

    There is a wrapper (search for XUL, DX to VST) that works with many DX plug-ins.


    http://vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr/us/products/dxrack/dxrack.htm
    http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/printview.php?t=177538&start=0

    Both are free.

    Word of caution on the 64bit version of the second one. It only seems (for me) to find 64bit DX/DXi plugs even tough I point to where the 32bit DX/DXi plugs are located.

    The 32bit version and the first link (which is only 32bit) both find the 32bit DX/DXi plugs if your path points to them. Bot operate a little differently. I tend to like the second link's product a bit more.

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    Re:New Sonar, Old Plug-ins 2012/08/11 21:04:07 (permalink)
    Thanks Bapu!

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    Re:New Sonar, Old Plug-ins 2012/08/11 21:07:20 (permalink)
    You're welcome Bill.
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    Re:New Sonar, Old Plug-ins 2012/08/12 10:42:43 (permalink)
    Which Antares product uses Pace protection.  I can't remember?
    Mod Bod


    I would be a little wary of the Antares programs until you know your are up to date with the Pace protection drivers.

    I crossed a threshold with Autotune years back when doing an O/S upgrade and I was null and void as far as Autotune was concerned.  

    If you install them, I would make sure you have system restore engaged and save some restore points as you go.




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    Sonar Opa
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    Re:New Sonar, Old Plug-ins 2012/08/12 10:46:58 (permalink)
    So--is the x86 directory on my hard drive--a list of all the bridges in my OS?
    wst3


    Kantos still works just fine, I don't use the others you specifically mentioned. As a rule, you can scan VSTs and they will likely work. If you are running the x64 version of Sonar you'll need a bridge to access older (read x86) plug-ins, there is one integrated into Sonar, and there is J-Bridge, doesn't seem to be a clear winner, one works better for some plugs, the other for others. DirectX plug-ins are a different matter - you need to register them using regserver, and then it's a crap shoot. There is a wrapper (search for XUL, DX to VST) that works with many DX plug-ins. Fortunately for me, I have only a handful of DX plug-ins I'm really going to miss... but even at that it will require some leg work!




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    PreSonus FirePod audio interface
    Line 6 Guitar Pod
    Line 6 Bass Pod
    Axiom 25 keyboard
    KORG padKONTROL


    '...and remember kids, If you don't play with DAWs--don't start.'
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    Re:New Sonar, Old Plug-ins 2012/08/12 10:57:09 (permalink)
    Thanks for the info.  You guys have experience and knowledge that really helps.  God, don't we all get tired of this kind of hamster-wheel, work-around OS nonsense. Preaching to the choir, just sayin.  I'm going to have to learn more about this 'wrapper/bridge' process; Scares me.
    bapu



    There is a wrapper (search for XUL, DX to VST) that works with many DX plug-ins.


    http://vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr/us/products/dxrack/dxrack.htm
    http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/printview.php?t=177538&start=0

    Both are free.

    Word of caution on the 64bit version of the second one. It only seems (for me) to find 64bit DX/DXi plugs even tough I point to where the 32bit DX/DXi plugs are located.

    The 32bit version and the first link (which is only 32bit) both find the 32bit DX/DXi plugs if your path points to them. Bot operate a little differently. I tend to like the second link's product a bit more.




    Sonar X1 Prod Suite
    PreSonus FirePod audio interface
    Line 6 Guitar Pod
    Line 6 Bass Pod
    Axiom 25 keyboard
    KORG padKONTROL


    '...and remember kids, If you don't play with DAWs--don't start.'
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    Re:New Sonar, Old Plug-ins 2012/08/12 15:54:54 (permalink)
    Sonar Opa


    Thanks for the info.  You guys have experience and knowledge that really helps.  God, don't we all get tired of this kind of hamster-wheel, work-around OS nonsense. Preaching to the choir, just sayin.  I'm going to have to learn more about this 'wrapper/bridge' process; Scares me.
    bapu



    There is a wrapper (search for XUL, DX to VST) that works with many DX plug-ins.


    http://vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr/us/products/dxrack/dxrack.htm
    http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/printview.php?t=177538&start=0

    Both are free.

    Word of caution on the 64bit version of the second one. It only seems (for me) to find 64bit DX/DXi plugs even tough I point to where the 32bit DX/DXi plugs are located.

    The 32bit version and the first link (which is only 32bit) both find the 32bit DX/DXi plugs if your path points to them. Bot operate a little differently. I tend to like the second link's product a bit more.


    Well Soar Opa, in this case it is only newfound knowledge (meaning like in the last two days).
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