V Vocal - what a pleasant surprise

I am totally old school going back to reel to reel recording and to this day will record a part 3-5 times and just pick the best take. The other day I noticed the track I picked had a note that was off at the end of a verse and before re-recording the track I decided to try V-Vocal before removing the offending track. To my suprise it corrected JUST that note and did it seamlessly.... I'm keeping that track

Tkrain

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I am totally old school going back to reel to reel recording and to this day will record a part 3-5 times and just pick the best take. The other day I noticed the track I picked had a note that was off at the end of a verse and before re-recording the track I decided to try V-Vocal before removing the offending track. To my suprise it corrected JUST that note and did it seamlessly.... I'm keeping that track

I have a bass that just doesn't quite tune right... 12th fret is always just a little flat, enough at least for me to notice.  V-Vocal does a nice job with that very subtle fix.  I'll also use it in some leads where I've missed just one note, but I'll generally move that note manually instead of allowing the autocorrect to work. 

You need to learn about guitar intonation, my friend.

V-Vocal is as good as any other pitch correction IMO. I use it all the time for small fixes to great takes, but I do prefer to just get the muso's to sing it right from the start ! :O) Any pitching software gets fatiguing on the ear after a while.

Don't bother using v-Vocal on lead guitars unless it's a clean DI. It gets confused by distortion and is utterly flabberwacked by chorus, delay or reverb.

mattplaysguitar

 

You need to learn about guitar intonation, my friend.

Hehe, this is AFTER having the intonation fixed.  The Bass was a very cheap one.  It's as good as it's going to get.  When I don't head up to the 12th fret, it's actually pretty darn accurate. 

@guitarhacker... I'm pretty sure X1 comes with V-Vocal so it's likely you DO have it. But if you have Melodyne there's no point because that is supposed to be the better program unless you just want to see what V-V does out of curiosity.

@TKrain... Yeah, that's what I figured (haven't really gotten that far yet... so much dumb real world stuff stealing my learning/recording time). For me personally I'd like to avoid using that type of effect for my own tracks but when it comes down to it, as I do like to improvise a LOT, if I get an absolutely stellar take with a couple slightly off notes I'd be inclined to try it out. Also if I'm dealing with OTHER peoples stuff which I have to do remotely I could definitely see correction software coming into play. As I can't afford the more expensive programs it makes me feel a little more secure just knowing it is there if I need it. I'd imagine it might be a cool thing to play around with to create some wacky effects too. Then all of a sudden it becomes a creative tool as opposed to a corrective one. Anyway it is little things like that which are included in the package that made me choose Sonar over other software. They just give you so much cool stuff. On a more direct note, how have things been coming along for you, TKrain? I know you had a couple moments of frustration at the start but is all well now? You getting some nice tracks done? Cheers!

Tkrain. I have the same situation with my bass. It is what it is.
If it's an important file, I melodyne it:)

@TKrain... Right on, man. I'm no expert but Firefox can be a rather resource intensive program (I loved it and have for many years but it is). It's probably clogging up your RAM and sometimes runs in the background even after you've closed it. Generally on my DAW system I clear FFs cache, close it, disconnect the ethernet cable and reboot before starting an X1 session. You really want your system completely focused on the task at hand when dealing with X1 and as I said FF has a tendency to "linger". I'm curious... have you done a full system optimization for audio? There are all sorts of little things that Windows and other programs will do by default that can distract the system from getting things done. Disabling startup programs and whatever is very helpful at avoiding little burps and errors caused by programs screwing around in the background. Also I personally really like Avast as my AV but tossed Microsoft Security Essentials on the DAW system because it isn't quite as intrusive and it is still very effective. If you are using your DAW for internet usage as well I'd recommend installing AdBlockPlus and NoScript for Firefox. They just stop every potential wacky thing right in the browser so it's an extra level of security. I personally only use the internet on my audio system to download audio related programs from companies I trust like Cakewalk and do everything thing else on another computer. Just keeps things a little cleaner and safer. You can pickup pretty decent laptops for around $300 for general usage (my Acer is AWESOME and that's what I paid for it). Then your big rig can just do what it was meant to do... make beautiful tunage. Cheers!

Yeah, it's interesting... even a few cents off on the Bass makes a lot bigger difference than a few cents off on the guitar or even voice. In the rare times I get to use the church bass, it just isn't a problem. My bass here at home, though.. just needs that little massage sometimes. Lynn, yeah just my experience, VV doesn't seem to like the effects much. Since I don't want it stripping my bends, though, I prefer manually editing anyways when I do use it on a guitar. Kudos if it worked well, though!