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2012/08/18 12:57:57 (permalink)

My E drive seems to be taking naps even though I have power management off...

So anytime I walk away from my system or have just booted up it takes my E drive a few seconds to "wake up". I've done all the system optimization stuff so I figured this type of thing wouldn't be happening. Actually last night after I booted up and opened a project I got an audio engine stop once the track actually reached an event. Once the E drive spun up all was well. I'm recording my audio to the E drive (1TB Caviar Black 7200RPM) and I can actually hear it spinning whenever I go to do something after letting the system sit idle for a while. It's not a HUGE deal but I'd kind of like to have it ready to go at all times. Any thoughts? Thanks.
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    John
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    Re:My E drive seems to be taking naps even though I have power management off... 2012/08/18 13:13:08 (permalink)
    I have noticed this to a degree. I think its in the drive as a way to keep heat under control and to lengthen lifetime. I have 5 HDs on my system plus 2 removable ones in 2 drives bays(system drive is one of those). So often there is a delay in opening up a drive's folder. Sometimes its Windows doing an index. 

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    Re:My E drive seems to be taking naps even though I have power management off... 2012/08/18 13:18:45 (permalink)
    "John"
    Sometimes its Windows doing an index.

    You don't turn off indexing???
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    Re:My E drive seems to be taking naps even though I have power management off... 2012/08/18 13:22:31 (permalink)
    Well if it's normal I can live with it. When I get going on the recording stuff my mind starts moving so fast that second or so seems like forever but aside from that one engine stop (which really was insignificant) it hasn't caused any issues. Just thought I'd see what you guys had to say on the matter. Cheers.
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    Re:My E drive seems to be taking naps even though I have power management off... 2012/08/18 13:49:40 (permalink)
    Sometimes its Windows doing an index
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    "John"

    Sometimes its Windows doing an index.

    You don't turn off indexing???

    Yeah John, I read somewhere we should not use it (and it must be true if it was on the internet) but it would be nice if it expedited searches substantially and didn't cause issues elsewhere.

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    Re:My E drive seems to be taking naps even though I have power management off... 2012/08/18 13:58:04 (permalink)
    Open your drive properties,enable ready boost,max setting ,this will give you a 4gb cache,and will also leave your drive in use always.gives a nice preformance boost also.
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    Re:My E drive seems to be taking naps even though I have power management off... 2012/08/18 13:59:16 (permalink)
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    Sometimes its Windows doing an index
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    "John"

    Sometimes its Windows doing an index.

    You don't turn off indexing???

    Yeah John, I read somewhere we should not use it (and it must be true if it was on the internet) but it would be nice if it expedited searches substantially and didn't cause issues elsewhere.


    I have had no reason to turn it off. Further, I search my drives often enough that its useful if I want to find something quickly.

    Its quick and unobtrusive. So why turn it off?

    I do video and audio and have never found it to be a problem.

    I don't allow anything to access the net automatically though including Windows. I do find that intrusive.

     

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    Re:My E drive seems to be taking naps even though I have power management off... 2012/08/18 14:08:03 (permalink)
    @Gary... Thanks, man. I may have already done that when I optimized but I'll double check. It's just a little annoying having such a high powered system getting slowed down by something so simple. Cheers.
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    Re:My E drive seems to be taking naps even though I have power management off... 2012/08/18 14:09:08 (permalink)
    And what is this Indexing you guys are talking about?
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    Re:My E drive seems to be taking naps even though I have power management off... 2012/08/18 14:33:08 (permalink)
    Windows keeps track of your files for searching. It looks into them and at them to find things it can tag for a search.

    It does this at times to update its index.  In the past before Vista Windows did this but very badly. It often could find anything or index well. After MS brought Vista they changed the file indexing completely both for speed and accuracy.

    Keep in mind that if you have a file but can't find it it might as well be lost. With mega hds out its more important than ever to be able to search them and find a file quickly. 

    I would go to MS and read up on indexing.

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    Re:My E drive seems to be taking naps even though I have power management off... 2012/08/18 14:43:33 (permalink)
    I usually just go through the folder trees to find what I want. I'm pretty meticulous when saving/naming things... but yeah I probably should read up on it.
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    Re:My E drive seems to be taking naps even though I have power management off... 2012/08/18 14:56:34 (permalink)
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    I usually just go through the folder trees to find what I want. I'm pretty meticulous when saving/naming things... but yeah I probably should read up on it.


    Me too for recent stuff. But I have stuff going back many years thats why I have so many HDs.

    Also indexing in Vista/Win 7 can look into files such as txt and doc files to find a phrase that one may know but not know what file its in.

    Its like a database of your files. Most people are unaware of its power. They may think its like it was in XP.



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    Re:My E drive seems to be taking naps even though I have power management off... 2012/08/18 15:15:04 (permalink)
    Oh... they fixed it so it can peek into the actual content of documents now? Yeah that's useful. Windows Explorer used to really suck which is why I just started being super organized in the first place so I wouldn't have to use it.
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    Re:My E drive seems to be taking naps even though I have power management off... 2012/08/18 15:55:49 (permalink)
    Oh... they fixed it so it can peek into the actual content of documents now? Yeah that's useful.



    Or not. 


    If you have a few tens of thousands of files and you are looking for a phrase that is in only one--excellent. In indexed locations the search is very fast. If your search word is in a few thousand files, you will get them all. Then you will need to use search filters to narrow it down. If you are looking for a file that you know is named the.txt, and you just type in "the" in the search box and do not preface your search with the filter "name: the", you will find everything in the index with the word "the" or therapy, or theory, etc. in it. The first time you do a search and get four thousand hits, you may wish the default was to search by name. Then you can start to memorize the advanced query syntax.
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    Re:My E drive seems to be taking naps even though I have power management off... 2012/08/18 16:38:33 (permalink)
    From the control panel go to Power Management and for whichever plan you’re using go to "change plan settings" and then to "change advanced power settings". Expand the Hard disk option and see what the “Turn off hard disk after” is set to. There is a Never option in there. I'm pretty sure that will fix it - it fixed mine.
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    Re:My E drive seems to be taking naps even though I have power management off... 2012/08/18 17:03:19 (permalink)
    Yeah I thought I had already done that but maybe it only changed the C drive. That drive seems to be fine.
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    Re:My E drive seems to be taking naps even though I have power management off... 2012/08/18 17:19:27 (permalink)
    Its like a database of your files. Most people are unaware of its power. They may think its like it was in XP.



    Yeah, like me...so John, did you go in and uncheck all of the extensions you never use (most of which I've never even heard of)?

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    Re:My E drive seems to be taking naps even though I have power management off... 2012/08/18 18:16:30 (permalink)
    No Randy because I often supply the extension when I search. You are right, there do seem to be a bunch of extensions that have no meaning to me but they do to various programs, I hope.  Some of them seem to have no meaning to anything. But I'll bet if I were to delete one the whole world will come and end!



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    Re:My E drive seems to be taking naps even though I have power management off... 2012/08/18 21:10:33 (permalink)
    But I'll bet if I were to delete one the whole world will come and end! 


    Well hopefully mine won't because I unchecked more than 90% of them...I mean what extensions are 1 ...or up to 5 letters long?
    That said I only have just over 10,000 results found on 4 HDs...my concern was having to store 4 HDs worth of data on a 160GB SSD C drive.
    Fortunately the folder is only 1.79 GB and my search results are almost immediate.
    Thanks John!...hopefully I won't have to send Big Louie after you if my whole world comes to an end  

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