samhayman
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X2 stability
Hey guys, I'm very happy with X1, but since there is now X2... well, I'm thinking of getting it. My dilemma is this - I don't know if initially it was my system setup (until I got it going properly) or because Sonar X1 came out with a host of bugs and stability issues - what I know is that when I got X1 and started having problems, I looked around and found quite a few complaints on the internet - until the patches started coming out. Do you think it might be the case with X2? I'm only asking since my livelihood depends on Sonar working properly and since I'm very happy with X1, I don't really need to upgrade to X2 but it would certainly be nice to have the latest toy :) So what do you think? Will it be stable as Sonar X1c? P.S. I'm currently working on a project - a new local TV series and I will be royally screwed if things start going wrong. In fact, 'c' is the last patch I installed months ago for fear that 'd' might cause me some problems :(
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Rain
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Re:X2 stability
2012/08/23 01:26:27
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My 2 cents - don't transfer your projects or upgrade to a new DAW upon its initial release. Use it on a secondary machine and see if it works or wait until the first couple of patches come out. It's not an issue w/ Cakewalk in particular - even on Mac, where the number of possible set ups is only a fraction of all the possible PC configurations, I don't do it. Even Logic, which is a Apple product running on Apple hardware under Apple's OS has bugs and needs patches. Imagine trying to code for PC... Bugs are a given. You may be lucky and not suffer any major inconvenience. But it's a gamble. I say, if you depend on it, use what works. Or gamble.
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mattplaysguitar
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Re:X2 stability
2012/08/23 01:27:23
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My guess is it will have a lot less bugs than X1 initially had as X1 was a major overhaul. Bugs are just simply going to happen. X2 is an update. Hopefully the majority or bugs will only be found in the particular updated sections and everything else will work as normal. I'm confident it'll be much better, but no doubt it'll have some bugs to start with. You expect that. I'd suggest you get on board and run the two together. Any money related stuff, stick with X1, and spend all your free time on X2, running it through its paces until you feel confident with its stability. Only then should you even consider moving your paid work permanently over to X2. If it does take a few patches to hit a stability you're happy with on your system and with your workflow, by the time that happens, you'll be fully learned up on X2 and have no learning curve to worry about.
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Re:X2 stability
2012/08/23 03:25:03
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Rain My 2 cents - don't transfer your projects or upgrade to a new DAW upon its initial release. Use it on a secondary machine and see if it works or wait until the first couple of patches come out. It's not an issue w/ Cakewalk in particular - even on Mac, where the number of possible set ups is only a fraction of all the possible PC configurations, I don't do it. Even Logic, which is a Apple product running on Apple hardware under Apple's OS has bugs and needs patches. Imagine trying to code for PC... Bugs are a given. You may be lucky and not suffer any major inconvenience. But it's a gamble. I say, if you depend on it, use what works. Or gamble. exactly if I upgrade my plan will be to run them side by side.
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samhayman
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Re:X2 stability
2012/08/23 05:39:09
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Thanks for the advice guys! As for the 'd' patch - do you guys think it might give me any problems? I use huge amounts of tracks and one thing that would certainly help is the nested folders feature.
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Re:X2 stability
2012/08/23 05:44:08
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CW recommends patching to d, that should be enough. Just have a backout plan (i.e. a good backup and set a restore point) just in case. Of course you could just reinstall, it's not that bad. You should be fine.
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samhayman
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Re:X2 stability
2012/08/23 06:25:30
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Awesome! Thanks a bunch guys!
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Re:X2 stability
2012/08/23 11:45:07
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exactly if I upgrade my plan will be to run them side by side. +1 I absolutely plan to upgrade. And I also absolultely plan to run them side-by-side just like I left 8.5 on after first installing X1. And when I'm comfortable with it, I'll just start using X2 as my "regular" DAW.
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samhayman
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Re:X2 stability
2012/08/23 12:06:43
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Yeah having them side-by-side is a brilliant idea. Why I haven't thought of it I don't know. I think I was thinking on the lines of X2 "over-writing" X1. So will X2 have what X1 Expanded has or do I need to upgrade to Expanded first? EDIT: I think I should read about X2 instead of bothering you guys. Sorry, thought of it after I hit the post button.
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scook
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Re:X2 stability
2012/08/23 12:47:44
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From the description available so far, it appears that the features of X1 Expanded are being folded into X2 Producer. You will not need to have X1 Expanded to use the "expanded" features in X2 Producer. You do have a decision to make, whether to upgrade to X1 Expanded now and qualify for the free upgrade to X2 Producer or skip X1 Expanded entirely and pay for the X2 upgrade.
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samhayman
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Re:X2 stability
2012/08/23 12:58:43
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Mind you I'm quite broke at the mo, clients are fast with demands but slow with payments. But more than a question of money with regards to X1 Exp vs X2, it's more a one of not having Sonar being moody. I just patched it to "d". Didn't restart. But I worked with it for a few hours. No problems whatsoever. Restarted. Loaded another project and it crashed twice while playing. The only two different variables in this particular project is Dimension Pro and the fact that I had the SV open. (Usually I just use PRV for editing, but I need to print this one out so I was making sure I have decent notation before I export to my notation software.) So it could either be Dimension Pro or the fact that I had the SV open? I don't know. Will have to run some 'tests'.
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Jim Roseberry
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Re:X2 stability
2012/08/23 13:41:27
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If you're using Sonar in a professional environment, plan ahead. Create a backup image file of your boot HD (using True Image or Paragon) prior to installing X2. This way... you can always quickly/easily get back. Second, as has been discussed, install X2 side-by-side. Use X2 for a few weeks... on non critical projects (I'd recommend using copies of projects) Once you're sure it's running stable and you're comfortable with the changes... then use X2 full time.
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