Sonar X1 Demo - pretty nice but bugs - help?

So I used to use SONAR back in the day, and have been trying out SONAR X1 demo - this is the snapshot of the build I have: http://lcpr.net/test/sonartrial.png It's pretty nice. I want to use the staff to chart out songs, add lyrics, etc. I know the staff is 'limited' but it'll do for what I want. So I'm pretty excited and it seems nice. Except for the crashes. I should note that this machine is rock solid, has run REAPER, Cubase, ProTools, Sonar 6 with ZERO issues. But it seems that just clicking the wrong place, or (in the case below) just dragging a midi note can cause a crash. http://lcpr.net/test/sonarfailshot.png Are there fixes recently vs the demo version I have? Has anyone else noticed this? Fixes? I mean, I *really* want to like this but it's tough when a few minutes into the demo you get these type of crashes. Intel E8400, 4G, Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L, WinXP32 SP3

And shoot, wouldn't you know it, I just loaded up Sonar to see if my splash screen shows the build like yours does, and my trial has expired! Now I am going to be Sonar-free until my copy arrives. This stinks! This is total BS! etc

  sharke: Well that's my problem too. But I *really* hate buying if it's going to be as buggy as the demo.

Ok - I don't have something turned on then. My reply only has icons for the message. It does not have *any* formatting capability. Seems like the forum is about as buggy as the software. Click on the :Forum Menu: then FAQ and you get a server error. Cake - you're not winning me over let me tell you....

sharke: can you let me know when you get your copy what version it's up to and if it's stable? Right now, I have four "MiniDumps" of data where SONAR X1 locks up and crashes me out of the program. For doing nothing except clicking somewhere.   Any thing I can do to send these or ??? so I can figure out what is going on?
 
The last was just selecting "staff view" from the menu and ***crash***.
 
I'm left with the conclusion that the software demo is either full of bugs - which is bad enough. But no way to tell if the 'real version' is any better.

sonar x2 will be doing away with support for windows xp

your operating system is 11 years old.
x1 was ment to run on windows 7.
sure there are people using xp still but i wouldnt even think about running something as powerful as sonar x1 on a windows OS from 2001.

running it here on windows 7,never had an issue,runs very strong,hardly even a hickup.

sooner or later your going to have to look technology in the eye and not blame sonar as much as being buggy but in fact what your running it on.

when it was released it was and still is supported by windows xp but newer patches and the web trial came out only a year ago.
like i said,i wouldnt run it on xp,but if i did,i wouldnt blame the software.

good luck.

You could of course ask that same question to the forum right now, because when I get my copy of X1 I guess the first thing I'm going to do is patch it up to X1d, the same as most people here.

 
Correct.  The screen capture shows the demo as X1b, two versions behind the current release, and there were many fixes between X1b and X1d.  Though whether the newer build will resolve the specific crashes you're seeing is impossible to say.  But it doesn't seem as though many users are experiencing the frequency of crashes you've described.   I know I personally am not, running X1d Expanded.
 

You should upgrade your computer to Windows 7 64-bit before considering Sonar X1. It will run much better and more stable under a more current O/S. Plus Win7-64 will use all 4GB of your memory which WinXP-32 can't. 

scook


X1 is supported on XP but it sounds like you use the machine as a test bed. Did you start with a fresh install of XP for the demo? It is not a requirement to work from a fresh start but if you are adding and removing software from the box, the cumulative effect of the all the changes can make a machine unstable. FWIW, X1 is being replaced soon by X2. X2 is not supported on XP.

The WinXp setup is rather newly and very stable install - recent 2 week ago refresh/ from image to make sure it was un-cluttered.  I really have had ZERO issues with anything else I've thrown at it in the past.
 
But I think 2 things - that a) the demo is probaly a little out of date, and b) the win7x64 seems definitely more stable in general.  With X2 even *specifying* win7 (*now* I know)  it seems reasonable to say it should be pretty good!   :-)
 

crlcpr


sharke: can you let me know when you get your copy what version it's up to and if it's stable? Right now, I have four "MiniDumps" of data where SONAR X1 locks up and crashes me out of the program. For doing nothing except clicking somewhere.   Any thing I can do to send these or ??? so I can figure out what is going on?
 
The last was just selecting "staff view" from the menu and ***crash***.
 
I'm left with the conclusion that the software demo is either full of bugs - which is bad enough. But no way to tell if the 'real version' is any better.

 
there is a reson they call them minimum requrments.
now this is just me but if i were to be dropping 4 bills on a software i WOULD be testing it with the latest up to date technology i could offer in my possesion
.i WOULDNT start with a test machine running an operating system thats about to have its support ended by microsoft and Sonar.
 
and to boot..if i did do that,i sure wouldnt come on this forum complaining the software is full of bugs..lol.
im sorry if i hurt your feelings but this is one of the strangest things ive ever heard.
 
to your deffense,you did say your running it on windows 7 now and its running much better,i comend you on that. :)
i know it can get frustrating sometimes when work is messed up by strange coinsidences.
anyrate,enjoy the demo and hope to have you aboard here and hanging in the forum w/ us.
it really is an amazing software.
make some cool music.
 
Charlie

Are your WinXP and Win7 installs a dual-boot configuration or two separate machines?
 

I'm running Sonar X1 Exp D on a i7 with ALL of the Bells and whistles (Rain computer built for audio). And I have to say X1 Exp D is VERY Buggy and unstable. Most if not All of the numerous bugs I've called in about have been reproducible on Cake's end so I think it's safe to say it's buggy and full of troubles that NEED to be addressed so as to re-gain or at least maintain some level of trust with the customers. Losing the ability to Fastbounce timecode based plugins with the X1 D patch has really left Sonar CRIPPLED. Longer bounce times add up with large projects. Everything I do is large and Full of timecode plugins (antare, melodyne, gtr rig, waves). Longer bouncing means either the CLIENT pays more if they are there for the tracking/recording or I eat the cost so as not to drive up my customers prices for Cakewalks BAD coding and lack of responsibility in not following up with another update (and apology) or a quick fix of some sort. X1 shouldn't be left crippled forcing the customers to upgrade to get the 'Fix' as "it's fixed in X2".

Its all good Charlie !!