Dave Modisette
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 11050
- Joined: 2003/11/13 22:12:55
- Location: Brandon, Florida
- Status: offline
VSTi One Trick Ponies
Name me some VSTi synths that emulate a specific piece of hardware. IOW, not samplers that have libraries but things like OrganizedTrio, Mr. Tramp and that sort of thing.
|
yorolpal
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 13829
- Joined: 2003/11/20 11:50:37
- Status: offline
Re:VSTi One Trick Ponies
2012/08/26 21:43:23
(permalink)
Eventide "Blackhole"...it actually only emulates one algorithym of an Eventide hardware processor...but a dang good algorithym:-)
|
mumpcake
Max Output Level: -59 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1609
- Joined: 2004/06/16 16:27:42
- Status: offline
Re:VSTi One Trick Ponies
2012/08/26 22:11:40
(permalink)
There are a lot of Solina emulations such as Cheese Machine or Crazy Diamonds (as in Shine On ...) The ultimate one trick pony might be the one that emulates the Tibetan monks.
|
rtucker55
Max Output Level: -53.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 2177
- Joined: 2005/06/20 21:11:47
- Location: Hope, Indiana
- Status: offline
Re:VSTi One Trick Ponies
2012/08/26 22:25:59
(permalink)
There are the MusicLab series of specific guitar emulators, RealGuitar, RealLpc, and RealStrat. They will be releasing version 3 very soon also.
Purrrfect Audio DAW here. Wow!...
|
yorolpal
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 13829
- Joined: 2003/11/20 11:50:37
- Status: offline
Re:VSTi One Trick Ponies
2012/08/26 23:00:24
(permalink)
|
Glyn Barnes
Max Output Level: -0.3 dBFS
- Total Posts : 7564
- Joined: 2009/06/10 05:12:31
- Location: A Stone's Throw from the Line
- Status: offline
Re:VSTi One Trick Ponies
2012/08/26 23:45:32
(permalink)
yorolpal G-Force Mellotron (pro). And their Minimonsta (mini moog), Oddity (ARP Oddesy) and Imposcar (OSC OSCAR). However seeing these are emulations of very versitile synths maybe they don't count as a one trick pony? One of my favorite hardware emulations is Korg's legacy Mono/Poly.
|
Freddie H
Max Output Level: -39 dBFS
- Total Posts : 3617
- Joined: 2007/09/21 06:07:40
- Status: offline
Re:VSTi One Trick Ponies
2012/08/27 04:43:55
(permalink)
-Highly developed spirits often encounter resistance from mediocre minds. -It really matters!
|
Kev999
Max Output Level: -36 dBFS
- Total Posts : 3922
- Joined: 2007/05/01 14:22:54
- Location: Victoria, Australia
- Status: offline
Re:VSTi One Trick Ponies
2012/08/27 07:50:19
(permalink)
Mod Bod ...things like OrganizedTrio, Mr. Tramp and that sort of thing. You've mentioned two of GSi's products. I presume that you have checked out their others, e.g. Miles'tone, MrRay and VB3. http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=products
SonarPlatinum∞(22.11.0.111)|Mixbus32C(4.3.19)|DigitalPerformer(9.5.1)|Reaper(5.77)FractalDesign:DefineR5|i7-6850k@4.1GHz|16GB@2666MHz-DDR4|MSI:GamingProCarbonX99a|Matrox:M9148(x2)|UAD2solo(6.5.2)|W7Ult-x64-SP1 Audient:iD22+ASP800|KRK:VXT6|+various-outboard-gear|+guitars&basses, etc. Having fun at work lately
|
Kev999
Max Output Level: -36 dBFS
- Total Posts : 3922
- Joined: 2007/05/01 14:22:54
- Location: Victoria, Australia
- Status: offline
Re:VSTi One Trick Ponies
2012/08/27 07:56:48
(permalink)
SonarPlatinum∞(22.11.0.111)|Mixbus32C(4.3.19)|DigitalPerformer(9.5.1)|Reaper(5.77)FractalDesign:DefineR5|i7-6850k@4.1GHz|16GB@2666MHz-DDR4|MSI:GamingProCarbonX99a|Matrox:M9148(x2)|UAD2solo(6.5.2)|W7Ult-x64-SP1 Audient:iD22+ASP800|KRK:VXT6|+various-outboard-gear|+guitars&basses, etc. Having fun at work lately
|
bitflipper
01100010 01101001 01110100 01100110 01101100 01101
- Total Posts : 26036
- Joined: 2006/09/17 11:23:23
- Location: Everett, WA USA
- Status: offline
Re:VSTi One Trick Ponies
2012/08/27 11:16:33
(permalink)
All else is in doubt, so this is the truth I cling to. My Stuff
|
dmbaer
Max Output Level: -49.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 2585
- Joined: 2008/08/04 20:10:22
- Location: Concord CA
- Status: offline
Re:VSTi One Trick Ponies
2012/08/27 12:35:32
(permalink)
While not VSTs exactly, just about everything from Hollow Sun does just one thing and does it very well ... all in the form of Kontakt libraries, of course.
|
Glyn Barnes
Max Output Level: -0.3 dBFS
- Total Posts : 7564
- Joined: 2009/06/10 05:12:31
- Location: A Stone's Throw from the Line
- Status: offline
Re:VSTi One Trick Ponies
2012/08/27 12:56:50
(permalink)
bitflipper Here are two classic Italian transistor organs that nail their respective emulations: Martinic Combo Model F (Farfisa) Martinic Combo Model V (Vox Continental) And they are free downloads! And there are 64 bit versions too. I will have to give them a spin.
|
Dave Modisette
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 11050
- Joined: 2003/11/13 22:12:55
- Location: Brandon, Florida
- Status: offline
Re:VSTi One Trick Ponies
2012/08/27 17:45:20
(permalink)
Kev999 Mod Bod ...things like OrganizedTrio, Mr. Tramp and that sort of thing. You've mentioned two of GSi's products. I presume that you have checked out their others, e.g. Miles'tone, MrRay and VB3. http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=products Yeah, I've got Mr. Ray. Good Rhodes sound. I would get VB3 if it had a 64 bit version. I just don't want to buy something that isn't 64 bit.
|
Dave Modisette
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 11050
- Joined: 2003/11/13 22:12:55
- Location: Brandon, Florida
- Status: offline
Re:VSTi One Trick Ponies
2012/08/27 17:49:02
(permalink)
|
timidi
Max Output Level: -21 dBFS
- Total Posts : 5449
- Joined: 2006/04/11 12:55:15
- Location: SE Florida
- Status: offline
Re:VSTi One Trick Ponies
2012/08/27 19:38:35
(permalink)
Mod Bod Kev999 Mod Bod ...things like OrganizedTrio, Mr. Tramp and that sort of thing. You've mentioned two of GSi's products. I presume that you have checked out their others, e.g. Miles'tone, MrRay and VB3. http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=products Yeah, I've got Mr. Ray. Good Rhodes sound. I would get VB3 if it had a 64 bit version. I just don't want to buy something that isn't 64 bit. Hey Mod. Is the Mr. Ray your go to rhodes? The demos sound pretty nice to me. Thanks BTW, I think Trillian may fit your 'one trick pony' topic.
|
rtucker55
Max Output Level: -53.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 2177
- Joined: 2005/06/20 21:11:47
- Location: Hope, Indiana
- Status: offline
Re:VSTi One Trick Ponies
2012/08/27 21:42:02
(permalink)
Hi Dave, I just re-read your original post and realized that I listed guitar simulators vs. synths. Just curious though, why are you looking for One trick Ponies vs. something that can give you a pretty good representation of all the stuff listed, like Spectrasonics Omnisphere? Purchasing Omnisphere would probably be a lot cheaper in the long run and you would only need to become familiar with a common UI. Just asking, Kind regards, Rick
Purrrfect Audio DAW here. Wow!...
|
Sidroe
Max Output Level: -55.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1954
- Joined: 2010/11/10 18:59:43
- Location: Macon,Georgia
- Status: offline
Re:VSTi One Trick Ponies
2012/08/28 09:17:39
(permalink)
I find myself, surprisingly, going back to Mr. Ray and Mr. Tramp plugs a lot. Mr. Ray has the growl in the bottom keys that a lot of the simulators just don't get. Organized Trio really gives B4 a run for it's money. Allthose GSI plugs are fantastic and they do work in 64 bit with BitBridge in X1. Mr. Ray thru a stereo chorus or panner really brings to mind the Max Middleton Rhodes sound on Jeff Beck's Blow by Blow album. It almost is exact.
Sonar Platinum, Sonar X3e, Sonar X2a , Sonar X1 Expanded and 8.5.3 (32 and 64 bit), Windows 10 on a Toshiba P75-A7200 Laptop with i7 @ 2.4 quad and 8 gigs of RAM and secondary WD 1 Tb drive, Windows 10 desktop, Asus i5 @ 3.2 quad, 12 gigs RAM, 1 Tb drive, 1 500 gig drive, MOTU 24io, 2 Roland Studio Captures, Saffire 6 USB for laptop, Soundtracs Topaz Project 8 mixer, Alesis Monitor 2s, Event BAS 20/20s, Roland Micro-Monitor BA-8s, and 45 years worth of collecting FX, Mics, Amps, Guitars, and Keyboards!
|
Dave Modisette
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 11050
- Joined: 2003/11/13 22:12:55
- Location: Brandon, Florida
- Status: offline
Re:VSTi One Trick Ponies
2012/08/28 14:04:20
(permalink)
timidi Mod Bod Kev999 Mod Bod ...things like OrganizedTrio, Mr. Tramp and that sort of thing. You've mentioned two of GSi's products. I presume that you have checked out their others, e.g. Miles'tone, MrRay and VB3. http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=products Yeah, I've got Mr. Ray. Good Rhodes sound. I would get VB3 if it had a 64 bit version. I just don't want to buy something that isn't 64 bit. Hey Mod. Is the Mr. Ray your go to rhodes? The demos sound pretty nice to me. Thanks BTW, I think Trillian may fit your 'one trick pony' topic. Yes, Mr. Ray is my GOTO Rhodes. I'd love to have the real deal in my studio though.
|
Dave Modisette
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 11050
- Joined: 2003/11/13 22:12:55
- Location: Brandon, Florida
- Status: offline
Re:VSTi One Trick Ponies
2012/08/28 14:12:23
(permalink)
Just curious though, why are you looking for One trick Ponies vs. something that can give you a pretty good representation of all the stuff listed, like Spectrasonics Omnisphere? I guess it's my attraction to products that are more or less "finished." IOW, they concentrate on one thing and do it as good as it can be done so you don't get a lot of compromises or "me too" attitude in it. I don't limit a company to just one product but if I want a Rhodes simulation, I want to buy it from someone who has tried to make the best Rhodes simulation that they can do and not just some Rhodes samples that fit into their sampler engine. Plus, I feel comfortable in the limitations that one trick ponies put on me. When I load a sample in Dimension, all the parameters and knobs and stuff just sit there and dare me to monkey with them. As a personal preference, I don't want to be distracted by that. Heck, drawbars on a Hammond simulation are distracting enough.
|
timidi
Max Output Level: -21 dBFS
- Total Posts : 5449
- Joined: 2006/04/11 12:55:15
- Location: SE Florida
- Status: offline
Re:VSTi One Trick Ponies
2012/08/28 18:34:31
(permalink)
Thanks Dave. BTW, IMO, Omnisphere is way overated. The sounds are wonderful (with a lot of duplicity) but not too useable. Again, IMO.
|
rtucker55
Max Output Level: -53.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 2177
- Joined: 2005/06/20 21:11:47
- Location: Hope, Indiana
- Status: offline
Re:VSTi One Trick Ponies
2012/08/28 19:43:40
(permalink)
That makes perfect sense about not having to be distracted by the UI. Hearing that explanation my suggestion about Omnisphere would be a Total distraction as it is a very complex instrument. As timidi suggested the sounds are wonderful but they do require more than just a casual tweeking to get them to work in different situations. It would not make sense for someone that only wanted to use the presets that come with it. I have used the Scarbe RSP73 for Rhodes ever since he released them as they sounded the closest to a real Rhodes to me but I still had to go deeper into Kontakt and tweek it the way I wanted before I was satisfied. I can't even remember the number of real Rhodes stage and suitcases I have owned and sold. I wish I had just one of them back today. I really don't care for the new ones and they are way to pricey for me. Best of luck with your endeavors as it sounds like a real work flow enhancer. Kind regards, Rick
Purrrfect Audio DAW here. Wow!...
|
Zenwit
Max Output Level: -87 dBFS
- Total Posts : 191
- Joined: 2009/09/17 22:50:47
- Location: Katy Texas
- Status: offline
Re:VSTi One Trick Ponies
2012/08/28 22:28:51
(permalink)
I guess it's my attraction to products that are more or less "finished." ...... if I want a Rhodes simulation, I want to buy it from someone who has tried to make the best Rhodes simulation that they can do and not just some Rhodes samples that fit into their sampler engine. Check out the free demos of Arturia's emulations of hardware synths like the Moog Modular, Arp, Oberheim, etc.. I picked up the free Mini Moog and have been really surprised by the sound quality. Very analog and very well done. Heck, they really picked the low hanging fruit if you think about it. They only did emulations of extremely commercially successful synths of the 60's, 70's and early 80's so they didn't really have to invent anything. Just model it down to the nth degree. Did I mention free demos? Cheers
Sonar Platinum x64 Windows 10 x64 Couple of guitars, a bass, bunch of plugins, not enough time....
|
Glyn Barnes
Max Output Level: -0.3 dBFS
- Total Posts : 7564
- Joined: 2009/06/10 05:12:31
- Location: A Stone's Throw from the Line
- Status: offline
Re:VSTi One Trick Ponies
2012/08/29 00:01:27
(permalink)
Some of the classic hardware had a real character and some of that rubs off on emulations. My go to synths are GForce's Minimosta and Korg's Mono/Poly. Some of the Arturia stuff keeps tempting me now they have dropped the prices. I have Reaktor, Absynth, Massive and Z3ta +2 all or which are far more versatile but I am always drawn back to the vintage emulations as I can usually get the sound I am looking for quickly.
post edited by Glyn Barnes - 2012/08/29 00:04:26
|
myconsumerclub
Max Output Level: -82 dBFS
- Total Posts : 410
- Joined: 2007/07/09 23:39:46
- Status: offline
Re:VSTi One Trick Ponies
2012/08/29 01:17:31
(permalink)
I here you. One of my next purchases will be the korg legacy stuff probably get a controller and take the M1 le stuff along with all the other free lite versions they packaged. later on I can upgrade to the whole legacy package for $100 I just hope it works in win 7. Gforce minimonsta is very close on the top of my wish list as well but I think opx pro II will sneak in there before it and the demo of xils lab polykb has really been impressing me I might have to add that into the mix before GForces mini as well. Sampletron by the way is only $30 at audiodeluxe right now. That's another I may have to jump on next week $30 is just too good of a deal to pass up. between all those synths and GSI and some church organ vstis you have more firepower than yes had when Wakeman was tearing it up with Yes in the late 70's. Amazing they could do so much with so few choices. I downloaded the memorymoon demo but did not have a chance to test it yet. Probably do that tomorrow. Probably stays in tune a lot better than my old memorymoog did.
Samsung I7 8 mb ram windows 8 64 bit on everything x2 & X1 producer line 6 podfarm gold interface event monitors Ibanez rg 350 guitar and GA6CE classical edirol pcr 500 keystation 88 plugins out the wazoo
|
Jeff Evans
Max Output Level: -24 dBFS
- Total Posts : 5139
- Joined: 2009/04/13 18:20:16
- Location: Ballarat, Australia
- Status: offline
Re:VSTi One Trick Ponies
2012/08/30 00:44:15
(permalink)
Thanks to Mod Bod and also Kev999 for mentioning GSI. I am playing with one of their One Trick Ponies and that is the Roland Space Echo GS 201. I used to own one and paid $500 for it in the 70's sometime and sold it for $905 a few years ago. Anyway got lots of nice delays but this plug-in definitely does the Space Echo very well. It really sounds like it a lot. The spring Reverb unit is very well represented too. Watch out it even has tape hiss just like the real thing and you have to use a gate or downward expander to clean it up. Another very nice One Trick Pony is Dimension D from Empty Room Systems. It sounds killer and very much like the real Dimension, one of the best choruses you will hear. http://emptyroomsystems.c...-dimension-d-v1-0.html Both of these are very fine alternatives to the monopoly that UAD had with these plugins. The plate reverb from ERS is also meant to be quite stunning.
Specs i5-2500K 3.5 Ghz - 8 Gb RAM - Win 7 64 bit - ATI Radeon HD6900 Series - RME PCI HDSP9632 - Steinberg Midex 8 Midi interface - Faderport 8- Studio One V4 - iMac 2.5Ghz Core i5 - Sierra 10.12.6 - Focusrite Clarett thunderbolt interface Poor minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas -Eleanor Roosevelt
|
lightninrick
Max Output Level: -71 dBFS
- Total Posts : 972
- Joined: 2004/10/30 03:36:24
- Status: offline
Re:VSTi One Trick Ponies
2012/09/01 20:50:25
(permalink)
Sidroe I find myself, surprisingly, going back to Mr. Ray and Mr. Tramp plugs a lot. Mr. Ray has the growl in the bottom keys that a lot of the simulators just don't get. Organized Trio really gives B4 a run for it's money. Allthose GSI plugs are fantastic and they do work in 64 bit with BitBridge in X1. Mr. Ray thru a stereo chorus or panner really brings to mind the Max Middleton Rhodes sound on Jeff Beck's Blow by Blow album. It almost is exact. If you think Organized Trio gives B4 a run for the money, try VB3, which sounds a lot more like a Hammond with Leslie than Organized Trio does. VB3 sounds like it costs a lot more than it does. I love Mr. Ray too. Regards, Lightninrick
Sonar X3 and 8.5.3 Windows 7 64 bit Digitech RP360XP/Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 Studio Cat Pro laptop i7 16 GB RAM
|